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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby NJRedman » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:09 am

stever20 wrote:I don't think Fox has a chance of getting Big Ten tournament quite frankly. Definitely won't be on FS1- not when it's been network forever.. CBS a major factor there quite frankly....


You don't think Fox can get a property? Shocking! I bet in a few months you'll just say Fox can get it but it will just be bad news for the Big East somehow, like our championship game will be forced to FS2. hahahaha
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby GreatDaneAttorney » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:12 pm

Throwing out a wild idea here, but the Big East / B1G scheduling alliance + the possible sharing of MSG might be just the start of the cooperation between the two conferences.

What if they're also looking to partner up with the Big East on a move to Summer Baseball?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... all-summer

The dean of Big Ten baseball coaches says the league should move the season to summer, which would likely leave its teams out of the NCAA tournament.

Minnesota's John Anderson said the Big Ten would benefit from playing April to August when the weather is better. He says cold and snow, along with Big Ten recruiting rules, make it difficult for the conference to compete on equal footing with power programs.


I could imagine a scenario where the B1G wants to move baseball to summer but wants a major partner (even though the Big East is not a baseball power). If combined with the MAC and perhaps A-10, summer baseball could have a critical mass to host its own tournament.

Anywho, merely spitballing here.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby NJRedman » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:51 pm

GreatDaneAttorney wrote:Throwing out a wild idea here, but the Big East / B1G scheduling alliance + the possible sharing of MSG might be just the start of the cooperation between the two conferences.

What if they're also looking to partner up with the Big East on a move to Summer Baseball?

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... all-summer

The dean of Big Ten baseball coaches says the league should move the season to summer, which would likely leave its teams out of the NCAA tournament.

Minnesota's John Anderson said the Big Ten would benefit from playing April to August when the weather is better. He says cold and snow, along with Big Ten recruiting rules, make it difficult for the conference to compete on equal footing with power programs.


I could imagine a scenario where the B1G wants to move baseball to summer but wants a major partner (even though the Big East is not a baseball power). If combined with the MAC and perhaps A-10, summer baseball could have a critical mass to host its own tournament.

Anywho, merely spitballing here.


We can still do that without giving up MSG. Us giving up MSG is like the B1G giving up it's Rose Bowl tie in.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby stever20 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:17 am

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stever20 wrote:I don't think Fox has a chance of getting Big Ten tournament quite frankly. Definitely won't be on FS1- not when it's been network forever.. CBS a major factor there quite frankly....


You don't think Fox can get a property? Shocking! I bet in a few months you'll just say Fox can get it but it will just be bad news for the Big East somehow, like our championship game will be forced to FS2. hahahaha


I don't think Fox has a shot at the Big Ten tournament, no. Not with CBS. Big Ten tournament has been a mainstay on CBS for years- like every year EVER since they started in 1998. Very tough to see the Big Ten leaving that exposure... It's been Big Ten final and then the NCAA brackets reveal. Note, I didn't say that Fox couldn't get a piece of the Big Ten, but the tournament is a completely different animal. If anything, they could get early round coverage, but given that FS1 has the Big East, that's going to limit that possibility big time even with the early rounds...
Wednesday- Big East 1st rd(2 games), Big 10 1st rd(2 games)- can't do
Thursday- Big East QF(4 games), Big Ten 2nd rd(4 games)- can't do
Friday- Big East SF(2 games), Big Ten QF(4 games)- could do day session of Big Ten
So best case would be the day session of the QF for the Big Ten. Not exactly a home run or something that the Big Ten would look at favorably. just isn't a match quite frankly. I just love how you think Fox can wave it's wand and just get anything it wants for FS1. Just not realistic at all.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby billyjack » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:19 am

On a side note, a not relevant, but the Big Ten tourney final leading directly into the NCAA Selection Show is such a well known and long-standing tradition that I just learned about it in this thread. The Big Ten tourney tradition to me is that they never had one for what seemed like forever.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby GreatDaneAttorney » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:53 am

NJRedman wrote:We can still do that without giving up MSG. Us giving up MSG is like the B1G giving up it's Rose Bowl tie in.


And I'm not suggesting "giving up" MSG, but allowing the B1G to use it on Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon for their semifinals and final.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby NJRedman » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:01 pm

GreatDaneAttorney wrote:
NJRedman wrote:We can still do that without giving up MSG. Us giving up MSG is like the B1G giving up it's Rose Bowl tie in.


And I'm not suggesting "giving up" MSG, but allowing the B1G to use it on Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon for their semifinals and final.


Well thats not up to us, thats up to MSG.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby NJRedman » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:05 pm

stever20 wrote:
NJRedman wrote:
stever20 wrote:I don't think Fox has a chance of getting Big Ten tournament quite frankly. Definitely won't be on FS1- not when it's been network forever.. CBS a major factor there quite frankly....


You don't think Fox can get a property? Shocking! I bet in a few months you'll just say Fox can get it but it will just be bad news for the Big East somehow, like our championship game will be forced to FS2. hahahaha


I don't think Fox has a shot at the Big Ten tournament, no. Not with CBS. Big Ten tournament has been a mainstay on CBS for years- like every year EVER since they started in 1998. Very tough to see the Big Ten leaving that exposure... It's been Big Ten final and then the NCAA brackets reveal. Note, I didn't say that Fox couldn't get a piece of the Big Ten, but the tournament is a completely different animal. If anything, they could get early round coverage, but given that FS1 has the Big East, that's going to limit that possibility big time even with the early rounds...
Wednesday- Big East 1st rd(2 games), Big 10 1st rd(2 games)- can't do
Thursday- Big East QF(4 games), Big Ten 2nd rd(4 games)- can't do
Friday- Big East SF(2 games), Big Ten QF(4 games)- could do day session of Big Ten
So best case would be the day session of the QF for the Big Ten. Not exactly a home run or something that the Big Ten would look at favorably. just isn't a match quite frankly. I just love how you think Fox can wave it's wand and just get anything it wants for FS1. Just not realistic at all.


CBS only covered the final and maybe the semi' but the rest was always on ESPN. Just like everything else it comes down to money.
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby TheHall » Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:24 pm

Want to get a hot thread going, just title it "Blah Blah Blah is in talks to move its conference tournament to MSG by 2000-blah blah"

It's amazing how soooome posters here keep trying to make the case for how the Regular Season BE title is much more important than the actual BET title, almost like a "nice to have" thing. Yet whenever some other conference tries to horn in on MSG/BET those same posters get damn near like an overprotective parent of the BET. Which one is it- a unique & extra-special showcase or just a few games to improve seeding?
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Re: Big10 looking at MSG for 2018 Tournament

Postby stever20 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:28 pm

actually don't think as much of it was on ESPN as you would think. ESPN always had ACC tournament along with the Big East Tournament taking a lot of the Thursday/Friday slots. Starting in 2005, a lot of the games on Big Ten Network(which don't think would change). Also bottom line, it'd be almost impossible for Fox to have both Big Ten and Big East. I mean, Thursday of tournament week, Big East has 4 QF and Big Ten has 4 2nd rd games. Don't see either Big East or Big Ten willing to have their games on FS2. Really the only weekday session they could have would be the afternoon Big Ten QF. That's really it...
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