Cuse/Georgetown

[hoyahooligan]

So your schools are making twice the money now yet some of the fans here want to punish the Cuse for doubling your bottom-line?

BTW, Duke has no place to complain. They only distribute about 75 tix to all teams...Cuse will sell visiting schools as many tickets as they want...no games.

We'd probably be making 4x as much money if the BE hadn't broken up.

[TexanMark]

So your schools are making twice the money now yet some of the fans here want to punish the Cuse for doubling your bottom-line?

BTW, Duke has no place to complain. They only distribute about 75 tix to all teams...Cuse will sell visiting schools as many tickets as they want...no games.

We'd probably be making 4x as much money if the BE hadn't broken up.

4x as much? Care to explain your logic?

You guys would've received a boost with a new ESPN contract but the FB schools would've received much more. Saying 4x as much is fantasy.

[DC Denizen]

Exactly. Another thing that should also be noted is that Syracuse is on an island by itself by Southern Canada and now are forced to play down south non-urban schools (except Ga Tech in Atlanta). They are not a true east coast urban team. They don't have the benefit of guaranteed conference play in these major cities anymore. If Cuse slips and/or Boeheim retires things will change fast. Their is no need to throw them a life raft it doesn't benefit both parties. Cuse is a very good team but, definitely not elite as mentioned earlier in this thread.

What does 'urban' have to do with anything? Mostly playing suburban/rural games hasn't seemed to hurt Kentucky, Kansas, Florida, Michigan State, UNC, Duke, etc. The idea that Syracuse needs a life raft is ridiculous. They play in probably the top basketball league in the country and get huge exposure through ESPN.

When Boeheim retires they certainly may make a bad hire but it wouldn't kill the program. They can always fire him and hire a new guy. With the transfer landscape as it is, it only takes 2 years to rebuild a roster when you have the sort of resources Syracuse has.

If you ignore whatever ticketing non-sense may be going on behind the scenes; we should absolutely schedule them. I don't see a downside for us.

[DudeAnon]

Yea, swallow the pride GTown. Its a great rivalry and a good rpi game.

[hoyahooligan]

So your schools are making twice the money now yet some of the fans here want to punish the Cuse for doubling your bottom-line?

BTW, Duke has no place to complain. They only distribute about 75 tix to all teams...Cuse will sell visiting schools as many tickets as they want...no games.

We'd probably be making 4x as much money if the BE hadn't broken up.

4x as much? Care to explain your logic?

You guys would've received a boost with a new ESPN contract but the FB schools would've received much more. Saying 4x as much is fantasy.

So Fox pays us twice what we were getting from ESPN for the 10 teams that comprise the BE now. You don't think Fox would've paid more if the product included the old BE teams and football? So either fox would have paid us more or ESPN would've been forced to beat it. 4x was arbitrary, but I would think that networks would've paid more for the old BE( as in with Cuse, Pitt, Louisville, rutgers all included) than they did for the 10 team league we have now.

[BigmanU]

Exactly. Another thing that should also be noted is that Syracuse is on an island by itself by Southern Canada and now are forced to play down south non-urban schools (except Ga Tech in Atlanta). They are not a true east coast urban team. They don't have the benefit of guaranteed conference play in these major cities anymore. If Cuse slips and/or Boeheim retires things will change fast. Their is no need to throw them a life raft it doesn't benefit both parties. Cuse is a very good team but, definitely not elite as mentioned earlier in this thread.

What does 'urban' have to do with anything? Mostly playing suburban/rural games hasn't seemed to hurt Kentucky, Kansas, Florida, Michigan State, UNC, Duke, etc. The idea that Syracuse needs a life raft is ridiculous. They play in probably the top basketball league in the country and get huge exposure through ESPN.

When Boeheim retires they certainly may make a bad hire but it wouldn't kill the program. They can always fire him and hire a new guy. With the transfer landscape as it is, it only takes 2 years to rebuild a roster when you have the sort of resources Syracuse has.

If you ignore whatever ticketing non-sense may be going on behind the scenes; we should absolutely schedule them. I don't see a downside for us.

Yup urban. All the following schools you mentioned Kentucky, Kansas, Florida, Michigan State, UNC, & Duke play like suburban/rural schools in their conference and are a geographic fit. Cuse does not fit that criteria in the ACC. They are a Southern Canadian school that has to play in urban hot beds such as Tallahassee, Clemson, Winston-Salem, Durham, Raleigh, Charlottesville, Blacksburg & DC metro (I forgot MD is gone) now instead of NYC, DC, Philly etc. This is their recruiting ground.

For the record I never had a problem scheduling them but, only if it is equally beneficially for both parties. Yes, Cuse does need the Beast (recruiting grounds) more than we need them.

[DC Denizen]

Yup urban. All the following schools you mentioned Kentucky, Kansas, Florida, Michigan State, UNC, & Duke play like suburban/rural schools in their conference and are a geographic fit. Cuse does not fit that criteria in the ACC. They are a Southern Canadian school that has to play in urban hot beds such as Tallahassee, Clemson, Winston-Salem, Durham, Raleigh, Charlottesville, Blacksburg & DC metro (I forgot MD is gone) now instead of NYC, DC, Philly etc. This is their recruiting ground.

For the record I never had a problem scheduling them but, only if it is equally beneficially for both parties. Yes, Cuse does need the Beast (recruiting grounds) more than we need them.

I think you are severely overrating the effect on recruiting that playing one game in a city has.

And you left off Boston, Miami, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta off of cities Cuse is now visiting.....

[BigmanU]

Yup urban. All the following schools you mentioned Kentucky, Kansas, Florida, Michigan State, UNC, & Duke play like suburban/rural schools in their conference and are a geographic fit. Cuse does not fit that criteria in the ACC. They are a Southern Canadian school that has to play in urban hot beds such as Tallahassee, Clemson, Winston-Salem, Durham, Raleigh, Charlottesville, Blacksburg & DC metro (I forgot MD is gone) now instead of NYC, DC, Philly etc. This is their recruiting ground.

For the record I never had a problem scheduling them but, only if it is equally beneficially for both parties. Yes, Cuse does need the Beast (recruiting grounds) more than we need them.

I think you are severely overrating the effect on recruiting that playing one game in a city has.

And you left off Boston, Miami, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta off of cities Cuse is now visiting.....

I give you Boston & Pitt (old History) but, that's all you got. No disrespect but, Pitt is not a exactly a destination people run to. Atlanta & Miami are the further most southern cities on the Eastern Coast. Like I said not a like school & out of their historical footprint. A Southern Canadian trip to Atlanta & Miami is a hell of a trip to make when your historically a Northeastern team. It hurts

[yaboynyp]

Gtown playing UMD >>>>>> Gtown playing Cuse

Attendance was down last year because the team sucked. As a life long GTown fan could care less if we play Cuse again. Gtown needs to build New Rivalries not spend their time trying to rehash the past. Only thing that playing Cuse in the DMV does is hepl Cuse recruit in the DMV.. Let them stay on their island and play stepchild to Duke and UNC ...

[TheHall]

I think you are severely overrating the effect on recruiting that playing one game in a city has.

And you left off Boston, Miami, Pittsburgh, and Atlanta off of cities Cuse is now visiting.....

DC dude throughout this thread you seem to keep making the perfect argument from a cuse fan's pov. If it's "only one game" why has Cuse/JB been trying their damnedest to get this one game back...It's not Gtown banging on their door. I also bet you don't see Hoya fans starting threads on ACC boards trying to drum up support...eeerrr take the pulse of cuse fans for renewing the game.