Cuse/Georgetown

[stever20]

It wouldn't help Fox if the rival was an ACC team or a Big Ten team at all- the away game wouldn't be on Fox ever. If Syracuse is the best team available, that's who we need the rival with. Network affiliation shouldn't mean 1 iota.

[hoyahooligan]

Hate to be that guy, but Georgetown needs to get that game. Swallow your pride, it is a great rivalry and can only help your RPI.

Georgetown already has a home and home with Kansas and plays in a big tournament every year next year it's atlantis which will have at least 3 top 10 teams in it. The Hoyas consistently have had one of the toughest schedules in the nation. Last year we had Oregon, Puerto Rico tournament, Kansas, and Michigan St. We do not have to worry about scheduling enough tough games. Rumors are they are in talks with Uconn as well for a home and home.

[lolhoya]

Georgetown does typically play a tough OOC schedule, but a lot of the games are usually neutral site games. That's fine for RPI purposes, but ticket sales for home games have been poor and are trending down.

I'd prefer to see a couple of those neutral site games switched out for more good home and homes, and Syracuse would be ideal. The problem is that scheduling games at the Verizon Center is extremely difficult, and it's much easier to ensure exposure by locking in neutral site tournaments in advance.

I know TV exposure matters a lot, but so does having a good home crowd, and that depends a lot on the schedule (especially for DC sports fans).

Because of the Verizon Center, it's hard to balance the need for TV exposure with the home schedule.

[redmen9194]

None of the old Big East teams need to have Syracuse on the schedule. If they want them that's fine and is good for ratings for many of the old schools. But Georgetown can schedule any top team in the country it wants, as it has in the past (Kansas, Michigan State). St. John's doesn't need to schedule Syracuse as it can bring in any top team for its RPI as well (Duke, UCLA). Nova can do likewise. On the other hand, Cuse needs games in NYC, Philly and DC. So I think the Orange benefit more from Big East scheduling then the Big East schools do. Now, St. John's has been playing Syracuse for decades so there is a long standing connection there. G"Town / Cuse was one of the top rivalries in the sport, so there is a connection there. So it is fine to either schedule them or not, but the Big East doesn't need Syracuse on its schedules as there are plenty of other schools out there that fit the bill for RPI.

[ivet]

Hoya fans are very split on this.

I am of the opinion that Hating Syracuse is a very big part of my Georgetown experience and it saddens me that I might not be able to pass that hate onto my kids one day and it not mean the same thing it once did.

I would be in favor of playing them every year. I would prefer a straight home and home.

I think Syracuse needs the series more than Georgetown at this point since Maryland left the ACC. Syracuse wants a game in DC they obviously have a lot of alumns in DC. I don't think the Hoyas should budge on their ticketing policy which is the same for all big games( Sell to your own fans first and delay sale to the public later than the rest of the games). Plenty of schools have the same policy and Georgetown should do nothing to accommodate Syracuse. But I do think the game should be played.

I agree, I belong to the younger generation of Hoya fans and the rivalry doesn't seem to get to me like the older guys. I think Syracuse is more inclined to schedule something with St. Johns than with us. That's if they could only schedule one of us.

[TheHall]

None of the old Big East teams need to have Syracuse on the schedule. If they want them that's fine and is good for ratings for many of the old schools. But Georgetown can schedule any top team in the country it wants, as it has in the past (Kansas, Michigan State). St. John's doesn't need to schedule Syracuse as it can bring in any top team for its RPI as well (Duke, UCLA). Nova can do likewise. On the other hand, Cuse needs games in NYC, Philly and DC. So I think the Orange benefit more from Big East scheduling then the Big East schools do. Now, St. John's has been playing Syracuse for decades so there is a long standing connection there. G"Town / Cuse was one of the top rivalries in the sport, so there is a connection there. So it is fine to either schedule them or not, but the Big East doesn't need Syracuse on its schedules as three are plenty of other schools out there that fit the bill for RPI.

Exactly...and I think these points only become more true as time goes by.

[stever20]

Cuse is going to have games in NYC no matter what St John's does. There's what now 4 or 5 exempt tournaments that are played in NYC each year that Syracuse can get in very easily...

Cuse can play in Philly easily as well. Temple is very realistic.

DC is a bit harder- but I know for instance in football this year Syracuse plays Maryland. Very possible to see them play there some. If nothing else- Big Ten/ACC challenge.

So I think the impact of Big East scheduling them is a tad bit overrated. Also- quite frankly if Cuse played Temple or Maryland- that elevates those schools some.

[TexanMark]

Some of you guys are ridiculous...Georgetown basically drew 9-12k fans for their best BE Home games. Georgetown and Michigan State only drew 12k at MSG. You put Cuse in Verizon and it is sold out at 20k+...It would get your best TV ratings of the season too! Georgetown plays at the Dome and it has 30k+ on a weekend and ESPN gameday is a possibility.

Syracuse is playing SJU and Nova yearly...Georgetown can make this work if they choose.

[billyjack]

Some of you guys are ridiculous...Georgetown basically drew 9-12k fans for their best BE Home games. Georgetown and Michigan State only drew 12k at MSG. You put Cuse in Verizon and it is sold out at 20k+...It would get your best TV ratings of the season too! Georgetown plays at the Dome and it has 30k+ on a weekend and ESPN gameday is a possibility.

Syracuse is playing SJU and Nova yearly...Georgetown can make this work if they choose.

What's ESPN...?

This would be a good series to continue, but I agree with those that say it's more important for Syracuse to continue it. Our major metro areas are valuable, and Kansas, UCLA, Michigan State and others, Duke, realize this.

Temple doesn't have the same juice as Villanova.
No one in metro DC has the same juice as Georgetown.
St John's is top dog in NYC, though early mini tourneys can be used by SU in MSG.

Plus, I can't wait for DePaul to turn things around in Chicago... they're a sleeping giant exposure wise.

[stever20]

Some of you guys are ridiculous...Georgetown basically drew 9-12k fans for their best BE Home games. Georgetown and Michigan State only drew 12k at MSG. You put Cuse in Verizon and it is sold out at 20k+...It would get your best TV ratings of the season too! Georgetown plays at the Dome and it has 30k+ on a weekend and ESPN gameday is a possibility.

Syracuse is playing SJU and Nova yearly...Georgetown can make this work if they choose.

What's ESPN...?

This would be a good series to continue, but I agree with those that say it's more important for Syracuse to continue it. Our major metro areas are valuable, and Kansas, UCLA, Michigan State and others, Duke, realize this.

Temple doesn't have the same juice as Villanova.
No one in metro DC has the same juice as Georgetown.
St John's is top dog in NYC, though early mini tourneys can be used by SU in MSG.

Plus, I can't wait for DePaul to turn things around in Chicago... they're a sleeping giant exposure wise.

Temple doesn't have the same juice- but it would allow them to play in Philly and keep a presence there. Same with Maryland in DC. NYC they have the exempt tournaments to help out.

Basically my point-Syracuse if they want to will play in DC, Philly, or NYC. They'll keep a presence there- nothing we can do about that. We may as well get the benefits of playing them while that is happening. You can't act like if we don't play them they are going to just never get to play in those cities because if they want to, it's going to happen. And in a lot of ways, it's the playing in the cities that matters for Syracuse- not necessarily who they are playing.