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Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby TheHall » Mon May 12, 2014 11:57 am

The site has been updated to the 2014-15 Recruiting/Scholarship chart & now includes 2017 recruiting targets for schools. Also they've added some new metrics, such as the conference avg star rating. I believe this rates current rosters based on current & past recruiting rankings. The BE holds the #2 spot currently:

@verbalcommits New Conference Average Star Rankings - 1 ACC, 2 Big East, 3 Big Ten, 4 SEC, 5 Pac12 6 Big 12 7 American

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/465880196701122561

As a part of our revamped conference displays, we added an average star calculation by conference. You can checkout the full list of conferences here. What stuck me after running the numbers, was that the drop-off after the top seven conferences, to the mid-majors was substantial and noticeable. The major conferences had average star ratings ranging from 3.29 to 3.01. The first mid-major conference, the A10, has an average star rating of 2.49. That's a more dramatic drop-off in talent than I had expected to see, particularly given the level of parity in today's game. It does however track the conference ratings work by Ken Pomoroy (subscription required). There is a similar drop in analysis of conference performance, though not as a dramatic, from the Majors to the Mid-majors at kenpom.

http://verbalcommits.com/blog/average-conference-star-ratings

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Re: Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby Bill Marsh » Wed May 14, 2014 9:39 pm

TheHall wrote:The site has been updated to the 2014-15 Recruiting/Scholarship chart & now includes 2017 recruiting targets for schools. Also they've added some new metrics, such as the conference avg star rating. I believe this rates current rosters based on current & past recruiting rankings. The BE holds the #2 spot currently:

@verbalcommits New Conference Average Star Rankings - 1 ACC, 2 Big East, 3 Big Ten, 4 SEC, 5 Pac12 6 Big 12 7 American

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/465880196701122561

As a part of our revamped conference displays, we added an average star calculation by conference. You can checkout the full list of conferences here. What stuck me after running the numbers, was that the drop-off after the top seven conferences, to the mid-majors was substantial and noticeable. The major conferences had average star ratings ranging from 3.29 to 3.01. The first mid-major conference, the A10, has an average star rating of 2.49. That's a more dramatic drop-off in talent than I had expected to see, particularly given the level of parity in today's game. It does however track the conference ratings work by Ken Pomoroy (subscription required). There is a similar drop in analysis of conference performance, though not as a dramatic, from the Majors to the Mid-majors at kenpom.

http://verbalcommits.com/blog/average-conference-star-ratings



Terrific that the Big East is #2! :) 8-)

It should be noted that this raking is using current conference alignments. So, Louisville is counted with the American. When they are moved to the ACC, that conference's lead will increase. When they and Rutgers are replaced by ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa, the American's average star rating for that conference will drop.

Furthermore, the info is out of date. As a result they are still counting Jermaine Lawrence as a Cincy recruit. When he is removed from their list, the American will drop further.
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Re: Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby ChestRockwell85 » Thu May 15, 2014 11:14 am

This is phenomenal. It looks like next year might be another bumpy road for the Big East as well, but if we continue to pull in classes like we did in 2014 we will CONTINUE to be a big time league. High hopes.
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Re: Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby TheHall » Thu May 15, 2014 12:10 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
TheHall wrote:The site has been updated to the 2014-15 Recruiting/Scholarship chart & now includes 2017 recruiting targets for schools. Also they've added some new metrics, such as the conference avg star rating. I believe this rates current rosters based on current & past recruiting rankings. The BE holds the #2 spot currently:

@verbalcommits New Conference Average Star Rankings - 1 ACC, 2 Big East, 3 Big Ten, 4 SEC, 5 Pac12 6 Big 12 7 American

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/465880196701122561

As a part of our revamped conference displays, we added an average star calculation by conference. You can checkout the full list of conferences here. What stuck me after running the numbers, was that the drop-off after the top seven conferences, to the mid-majors was substantial and noticeable. The major conferences had average star ratings ranging from 3.29 to 3.01. The first mid-major conference, the A10, has an average star rating of 2.49. That's a more dramatic drop-off in talent than I had expected to see, particularly given the level of parity in today's game. It does however track the conference ratings work by Ken Pomoroy (subscription required). There is a similar drop in analysis of conference performance, though not as a dramatic, from the Majors to the Mid-majors at kenpom.

http://verbalcommits.com/blog/average-conference-star-ratings



Terrific that the Big East is #2! :) 8-)

It should be noted that this raking is using current conference alignments. So, Louisville is counted with the American. When they are moved to the ACC, that conference's lead will increase. When they and Rutgers are replaced by ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa, the American's average star rating for that conference will drop.

Furthermore, the info is out of date. As a result they are still counting Jermaine Lawrence as a Cincy recruit. When he is removed from their list, the American will drop further.

Not trying to nitpick but implying that all (or even most) of the info at VC is out of date is somewhat overstated. VC is probably the most up to date recruiting site (along with 247) out there. Rivals, Scout & ESPN typically have much older info posted on most players. Either way it's still good news for the BE and getting better as you pointed out.
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Re: Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby Bill Marsh » Sat May 17, 2014 12:21 am

TheHall wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
As a part of our revamped conference displays, we added an average star calculation by conference. You can checkout the full list of conferences here. What stuck me after running the numbers, was that the drop-off after the top seven conferences, to the mid-majors was substantial and noticeable. The major conferences had average star ratings ranging from 3.29 to 3.01. The first mid-major conference, the A10, has an average star rating of 2.49. That's a more dramatic drop-off in talent than I had expected to see, particularly given the level of parity in today's game. It does however track the conference ratings work by Ken Pomoroy (subscription required). There is a similar drop in analysis of conference performance, though not as a dramatic, from the Majors to the Mid-majors at kenpom.

http://verbalcommits.com/blog/average-conference-star-ratings



Terrific that the Big East is #2! :) 8-)

It should be noted that this raking is using current conference alignments. So, Louisville is counted with the American. When they are moved to the ACC, that conference's lead will increase. When they and Rutgers are replaced by ECU, Tulane, and Tulsa, the American's average star rating for that conference will drop.

Furthermore, the info is out of date. As a result they are still counting Jermaine Lawrence as a Cincy recruit. When he is removed from their list, the American will drop further.
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Not trying to nitpick but implying that all (or even most) of the info at VC is out of date is somewhat overstated. VC is probably the most up to date recruiting site (along with 247) out there. Rivals, Scout & ESPN typically have much older info posted on most players. Either way it's still good news for the BE and getting better as you pointed out.


Thanks for clarifying that. :)
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Re: Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby billyjack » Sat May 17, 2014 12:45 am

TheHall wrote:The site has been updated to the 2014-15 Recruiting/Scholarship chart & now includes 2017 recruiting targets for schools. Also they've added some new metrics, such as the conference avg star rating. I believe this rates current rosters based on current & past recruiting rankings. The BE holds the #2 spot currently:

@verbalcommits New Conference Average Star Rankings - 1 ACC, 2 Big East, 3 Big Ten, 4 SEC, 5 Pac12 6 Big 12 7 American

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/465880196701122561

As a part of our revamped conference displays, we added an average star calculation by conference. You can checkout the full list of conferences here. What stuck me after running the numbers, was that the drop-off after the top seven conferences, to the mid-majors was substantial and noticeable. The major conferences had average star ratings ranging from 3.29 to 3.01. The first mid-major conference, the A10, has an average star rating of 2.49. That's a more dramatic drop-off in talent than I had expected to see, particularly given the level of parity in today's game. It does however track the conference ratings work by Ken Pomoroy (subscription required). There is a similar drop in analysis of conference performance, though not as a dramatic, from the Majors to the Mid-majors at kenpom.

http://verbalcommits.com/blog/average-conference-star-ratings



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Thanks for the Verbal Commits link... it's become one of my favorite sites this week.
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Re: Verbal Commits Site Updated/Upgraded; BE ranked #2.

Postby TheHall » Sat May 17, 2014 6:36 am

billyjack wrote:
TheHall wrote:The site has been updated to the 2014-15 Recruiting/Scholarship chart & now includes 2017 recruiting targets for schools. Also they've added some new metrics, such as the conference avg star rating. I believe this rates current rosters based on current & past recruiting rankings. The BE holds the #2 spot currently:

@verbalcommits New Conference Average Star Rankings - 1 ACC, 2 Big East, 3 Big Ten, 4 SEC, 5 Pac12 6 Big 12 7 American

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/465880196701122561

As a part of our revamped conference displays, we added an average star calculation by conference. You can checkout the full list of conferences here. What stuck me after running the numbers, was that the drop-off after the top seven conferences, to the mid-majors was substantial and noticeable. The major conferences had average star ratings ranging from 3.29 to 3.01. The first mid-major conference, the A10, has an average star rating of 2.49. That's a more dramatic drop-off in talent than I had expected to see, particularly given the level of parity in today's game. It does however track the conference ratings work by Ken Pomoroy (subscription required). There is a similar drop in analysis of conference performance, though not as a dramatic, from the Majors to the Mid-majors at kenpom.

http://verbalcommits.com/blog/average-conference-star-ratings



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Thanks for the Verbal Commits link... it's become one of my favorite sites this week.

np...next to Twitter it's the most useful site I check out & it seems to be getting even better this year.
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