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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby billyjack » Mon May 05, 2014 2:36 pm

stever20 wrote:
...now comes the tough part for us..... actually winning these games. Big East has to perform on the floor. AAC and A10 have done that so far. Big East really hasn't.


You're as relentless in predicting the collapse of the Big East, as the Monty Python knight is in accepting defeat... and your predictions have had similar results... "just a flesh wound...!"

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Postby ohiohsbball » Mon May 05, 2014 2:40 pm

Great news for the Big East. I agree that winning these games is important, but just being linked with the BIG, which some people said was the best basketball league this year is a huge step. I know it will be a while, but I'm curious as to what the matchps will be. I know a lot of people would like to see a Xavier/Ohio State matchup, but I don't see that. If the schools have a say over the opponent (which I don't know if they do or not), I don't see Ohio State agreeing to a game with Xavier. OSU refuses to play in state games with Xavier, Cincinnati, and Dayton.

A great get for FS1; hopefully they are marquee games with the top of the BIG.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby ohiohsbball » Mon May 05, 2014 2:42 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:This agreement reflects well on the overall strength of the Big East. There is no way that the Big Ten would center into an agreement like this with a conference without the depth of quality teams that the Big East has. This is what people miss when they make the claim that conferences are judged by what the teams at the top do. In situations like this, that's simply not the case.


This is true, but the BIG also is into marketing and money making more than anything. They can say competition all they want, and I'm sure that is part of it, but with the Big East having a big presence on the East Coast, it gives the BIG some games on those campuses and at Madison Square Garden. Looking forward to those games.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby FriarJ » Mon May 05, 2014 2:44 pm

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admin wrote:Let's do the math: 8 Big East vs B1G games per year for 8 years = 64 games. 10 BE teams and all teams must play 6 times...

My guess is that St. John's and Georgetown will play all 8 years (16 games) leaving 48 games for the other 8 Big East teams = 6 games per team.

Anyone wanna bet?


my hunch is you are wrong. I think for instance there will be a year near the end where Marquette or Villanova is sitting on 6 and they're a good top 20 team.

If you give all 10 teams their 6 appearances- that is 60 there. 4 teams get a 7th game. I'd guess it'd be Georgetown, Villanova, St John's, and probably Marquette.


The only thing that you can bet on is that PC will get a home game probably the 1st game of the 1st year against a bigtime opponent. They play on Dave Gavitt Court.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby stever20 » Mon May 05, 2014 2:50 pm

FriarJ wrote:
stever20 wrote:
admin wrote:Let's do the math: 8 Big East vs B1G games per year for 8 years = 64 games. 10 BE teams and all teams must play 6 times...

My guess is that St. John's and Georgetown will play all 8 years (16 games) leaving 48 games for the other 8 Big East teams = 6 games per team.

Anyone wanna bet?


my hunch is you are wrong. I think for instance there will be a year near the end where Marquette or Villanova is sitting on 6 and they're a good top 20 team.

If you give all 10 teams their 6 appearances- that is 60 there. 4 teams get a 7th game. I'd guess it'd be Georgetown, Villanova, St John's, and probably Marquette.


The only thing that you can bet on is that PC will get a home game probably the 1st game of the 1st year against a bigtime opponent. They play on Dave Gavitt Court.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. Only thing that may kind of hurt that is that Tuesday is also the Champions classic with Michigan St, Duke, Kansas, and Kentucky that's getting really big. Would think that Tuesday would be smaller games and then big name games that Wednesday.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby stever20 » Mon May 05, 2014 3:04 pm

billyjack wrote:
stever20 wrote:
...now comes the tough part for us..... actually winning these games. Big East has to perform on the floor. AAC and A10 have done that so far. Big East really hasn't.


You're as relentless in predicting the collapse of the Big East, as the Monty Python knight is in accepting defeat... and your predictions have had similar results... "just a flesh wound...!"

I'm sorry but the Big East actually does have to show it can compete on the floor. Last year it really didn't do that at all. It's one thing to get all the tough games- but you don't get credit just for scheduling those games. You have to actually win some of those games. I mean, imagine in Nov 2015 Big Ten goes 7-1 against the Big East. Was the challenge good for us? Maybe not.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby Xudash » Mon May 05, 2014 3:14 pm

stever20 wrote:
billyjack wrote:
stever20 wrote:
...now comes the tough part for us..... actually winning these games. Big East has to perform on the floor. AAC and A10 have done that so far. Big East really hasn't.


You're as relentless in predicting the collapse of the Big East, as the Monty Python knight is in accepting defeat... and your predictions have had similar results... "just a flesh wound...!"

I'm sorry but the Big East actually does have to show it can compete on the floor. Last year it really didn't do that at all. It's one thing to get all the tough games- but you don't get credit just for scheduling those games. You have to actually win some of those games. I mean, imagine in Nov 2015 Big Ten goes 7-1 against the Big East. Was the challenge good for us? Maybe not.


Every program and conference that wants to be highly thought of has to do that; that is obvious.

Last year was last year.

I can also imagine the Big East going 7-1 against the B1G. Imagination is a good thing, especially when it keeps you from the glass half empty mentality more often than not.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby billyjack » Mon May 05, 2014 3:15 pm

stever20 wrote:
billyjack wrote:
stever20 wrote:
...now comes the tough part for us..... actually winning these games. Big East has to perform on the floor. AAC and A10 have done that so far. Big East really hasn't.


You're as relentless in predicting the collapse of the Big East, as the Monty Python knight is in accepting defeat... and your predictions have had similar results... "just a flesh wound...!"

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I'm sorry but the Big East actually does have to show it can compete on the floor. Last year it really didn't do that at all. It's one thing to get all the tough games- but you don't get credit just for scheduling those games. You have to actually win some of those games. I mean, imagine in Nov 2015 Big Ten goes 7-1 against the Big East. Was the challenge good for us? Maybe not.


The Big East went, what, 6-5 this year vs the Big Ten, in a year that you think we sucked...?

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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby stever20 » Mon May 05, 2014 3:24 pm

I think it was 5-6. A lot of that was bottom of the conference- Butler and DePaul all got wins. So for the games that meant something- really 3-6.
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Re: Big East/Big Ten Press Conference Monday

Postby admin » Mon May 05, 2014 3:29 pm

stever20 wrote:I think it was 5-6. A lot of that was bottom of the conference- Butler and DePaul all got wins. So for the games that meant something- really 3-6.

Off the top of my head, at least 3 of our wins were over Big Ten NCAA tournament teams:

Georgetown over Michigan State
Creighton over Nebraska
Villanova over Iowa
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