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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby justsay » Sun May 04, 2014 9:10 pm

way to go commissoner!
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Postby flyerlax06 » Mon May 05, 2014 10:00 am

What's with putting her name in quotes? Would you put "Mike" in quotes for someone named Michael? Her name is Val. She goes by that.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby HoosierPal » Mon May 05, 2014 12:37 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
I do not share your opinion. You can't keep trashing conferences that aren't the Big East. The Big East needs to aspire to be as good as the AAC - winning national championships (and I guess to senditjerome that means being a mid-major conference). I won't be surprised if the AAC once again has more bids than the Big East next tourney.


The AAC hasn't won any NC's. UConn has. That's not a conference achievement.



I guess you turned off the NCAA after the Big East was flushed. The AMERICAN CONFERENCE went 9-3 in the tourney, surpassed only by the SEC CONFERENCE at 12-3. If you didn't follow the tourney, our big east conference went 2-4.

So where is your dividing line on conference power? The NCAA tourney is all that matters. CONFERENCES are awarded units (MONEY) based on the performance of the CONFERENCE.

"That's not a conference achievement." I will let you retract that one.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby dmac80 » Mon May 05, 2014 1:25 pm

I am definitely happy to eat some crow as an early skeptic and critic of Val. This BE Big Ten announcement is huge and I have to give her and the other conf leaders props for getting it done. Keep up the good work.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby FormulaX » Mon May 05, 2014 1:35 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
I do not share your opinion. You can't keep trashing conferences that aren't the Big East. The Big East needs to aspire to be as good as the AAC - winning national championships (and I guess to senditjerome that means being a mid-major conference). I won't be surprised if the AAC once again has more bids than the Big East next tourney.


The AAC hasn't won any NC's. UConn has. That's not a conference achievement.



I guess you turned off the NCAA after the Big East was flushed. The AMERICAN CONFERENCE went 9-3 in the tourney, surpassed only by the SEC CONFERENCE at 12-3. If you didn't follow the tourney, our big east conference went 2-4.

So where is your dividing line on conference power? The NCAA tourney is all that matters. CONFERENCES are awarded units (MONEY) based on the performance of the CONFERENCE.

"That's not a conference achievement." I will let you retract that one.

AAC 9-3 Having the Champ puts 6 wins on to that 9-3. You do the math. Same with UK from the SEC. You're right Hoosier. The AAC and the SEC were the best conferences in CBB last year.
Why do you think the AAC had more bids then the BE did last year? Wasn't it 4 each?
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby HoosierPal » Tue May 06, 2014 7:58 am

FormulaX wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
I guess you turned off the NCAA after the Big East was flushed. The AMERICAN CONFERENCE went 9-3 in the tourney, surpassed only by the SEC CONFERENCE at 12-3. If you didn't follow the tourney, our big east conference went 2-4.

So where is your dividing line on conference power? The NCAA tourney is all that matters. CONFERENCES are awarded units (MONEY) based on the performance of the CONFERENCE.

"That's not a conference achievement." I will let you retract that one.

AAC 9-3 Having the Champ puts 6 wins on to that 9-3. You do the math. Same with UK from the SEC. You're right Hoosier. The AAC and the SEC were the best conferences in CBB last year.


You and your buddy Bill are in an unbelievable state of denial. Of course the champ has to win 6 games. They don't crown the champ after the third round.

So you would rather be rated #4 by some obscure mathematical formula than win the entire NCAA Tourney. That seems to be more important to you. It's not to me, nor to the rest of the world.

It's all about WINNING THE TOURNEY. AN AAC MEMBER WON THE TOURNEY. The AAC has a bunch of money to spread around, more than the Big East. What don't you get about this. If the AAC is not MAJOR, then the Big East is mini-minor.

What is the bid deal about NOT giving the AAC credit for what they accomplished? There is more basketball than the Big East. Why the continual trashing of conferences other than the Big East?
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue May 06, 2014 8:35 am

HoosierPal wrote:
FormulaX wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
I guess you turned off the NCAA after the Big East was flushed. The AMERICAN CONFERENCE went 9-3 in the tourney, surpassed only by the SEC CONFERENCE at 12-3. If you didn't follow the tourney, our big east conference went 2-4.

So where is your dividing line on conference power? The NCAA tourney is all that matters. CONFERENCES are awarded units (MONEY) based on the performance of the CONFERENCE.

"That's not a conference achievement." I will let you retract that one.

AAC 9-3 Having the Champ puts 6 wins on to that 9-3. You do the math. Same with UK from the SEC. You're right Hoosier. The AAC and the SEC were the best conferences in CBB last year.


You and your buddy Bill are in an unbelievable state of denial. Of course the champ has to win 6 games. They don't crown the champ after the third round.

So you would rather be rated #4 by some obscure mathematical formula than win the entire NCAA Tourney. That seems to be more important to you. It's not to me, nor to the rest of the world.

It's all about WINNING THE TOURNEY. AN AAC MEMBER WON THE TOURNEY. The AAC has a bunch of money to spread around, more than the Big East. What don't you get about this. If the AAC is not MAJOR, then the Big East is mini-minor.

What is the bid deal about NOT giving the AAC credit for what they accomplished? There is more basketball than the Big East. Why the continual trashing of conferences other than the Big East?


In 2011, the Big East received 11 bids to the tournament and was universally praised for being such a strong conference to command so many bids.

THEN, 9 of those 11 teams failed to advance beyond the first weekend and the Big East was universally panned for being overrated.

In 2011, UConn went on to win the championship. That didn't change the fact that the conference failed to live up to expectations. UConn's championship saved face for the conference, but that's all it did.

This year's AAC got a lot of hype when it had 5 teams ranked. But then SMU stumbled down the stretch. Then Louisville failed to make it's expected championship run and now is gone from the conference. UConn had another face saving run, but it doesn't change what the conference as a whole did.

I have not been bashing any other conferences. When the AAC or the A10 have come up for discussion and inflated claims have been made for them, I have simply pointed to the facts. In this case, the fact is that the AAC. Is a bad basketball conference going forward. Having a NC at the top doesn't t change that.

Going forward, the AAC will have 6 members with RPI ranks of 140 or worse and 4 of those will be over 200. The only positive addition, Tulsa, just lost their coach and a bunch of his expected recruits. That program is in trouble. The Big East is bringing in 20 of the Rivals top 150 recruits. The AAC is bringing in 6.

Those are the facts. Why is it bashing a conference to simply state the facts in the face of overhyped and exaggerated claims?

Just as Memphis was bigger than CUSA and Gonzaga is bigger than the WCC, UConn is bigger than the AAC. What they have done reflects very little on the rest of the conference because the rest simply don't have accomplishments on their level, Noting that the Memphis run to Final Four was vacated in 2008, the rest of the AAC other than UConn hasn't had anyone else make it to the Final Four in the last 20 years. And Cincy's Ff in 1992 is the only fF by an AAC team not named UConn and not vacated in the last 40 years. With 6 members for next year having RPI rank worse than 140 and 4 over 200, this is simply not Avery good basketball conference.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby Jet915 » Tue May 06, 2014 6:14 pm

Waiting for stevers rebuttal....
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby TheHall » Tue May 06, 2014 6:55 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:In 2011, the Big East received 11 bids to the tournament and was universally praised for being such a strong conference to command so many bids.

THEN, 9 of those 11 teams failed to advance beyond the first weekend and the Big East was universally panned for being overrated.

In 2011, UConn went on to win the championship. That didn't change the fact that the conference failed to live up to expectations. UConn's championship saved face for the conference, but that's all it did.

This year's AAC got a lot of hype when it had 5 teams ranked. But then SMU stumbled down the stretch. Then Louisville failed to make it's expected championship run and now is gone from the conference. UConn had another face saving run, but it doesn't change what the conference as a whole did.

I have not been bashing any other conferences. When the AAC or the A10 have come up for discussion and inflated claims have been made for them, I have simply pointed to the facts. In this case, the fact is that the AAC. Is a bad basketball conference going forward. Having a NC at the top doesn't t change that.

Going forward, the AAC will have 6 members with RPI ranks of 140 or worse and 4 of those will be over 200. The only positive addition, Tulsa, just lost their coach and a bunch of his expected recruits. That program is in trouble. The Big East is bringing in 20 of the Rivals top 150 recruits. The AAC is bringing in 6.

Those are the facts. Why is it bashing a conference to simply state the facts in the face of overhyped and exaggerated claims?

Just as Memphis was bigger than CUSA and Gonzaga is bigger than the WCC, UConn is bigger than the AAC. What they have done reflects very little on the rest of the conference because the rest simply don't have accomplishments on their level, Noting that the Memphis run to Final Four was vacated in 2008, the rest of the AAC other than UConn hasn't had anyone else make it to the Final Four in the last 20 years. And Cincy's Ff in 1992 is the only fF by an AAC team not named UConn and not vacated in the last 40 years. With 6 members for next year having RPI rank worse than 140 and 4 over 200, this is simply not Avery good basketball conference.

Uconn is the hot trophy wife and the AAC is the squirrelly hedge fund guy trying to buy her affection. You know that couple with the big house, 5 car garage, boat, that always smile and wave when they come out but are always arguing at night, sometimes the police come out. That relationship won't last & it won't end cheap.....and that's when Big (East) Poppa steps in for some lovin!
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby BillikensWin » Tue May 06, 2014 8:26 pm

TheHall wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:In 2011, the Big East received 11 bids to the tournament and was universally praised for being such a strong conference to command so many bids.

THEN, 9 of those 11 teams failed to advance beyond the first weekend and the Big East was universally panned for being overrated.

In 2011, UConn went on to win the championship. That didn't change the fact that the conference failed to live up to expectations. UConn's championship saved face for the conference, but that's all it did.

This year's AAC got a lot of hype when it had 5 teams ranked. But then SMU stumbled down the stretch. Then Louisville failed to make it's expected championship run and now is gone from the conference. UConn had another face saving run, but it doesn't change what the conference as a whole did.

I have not been bashing any other conferences. When the AAC or the A10 have come up for discussion and inflated claims have been made for them, I have simply pointed to the facts. In this case, the fact is that the AAC. Is a bad basketball conference going forward. Having a NC at the top doesn't t change that.

Going forward, the AAC will have 6 members with RPI ranks of 140 or worse and 4 of those will be over 200. The only positive addition, Tulsa, just lost their coach and a bunch of his expected recruits. That program is in trouble. The Big East is bringing in 20 of the Rivals top 150 recruits. The AAC is bringing in 6.

Those are the facts. Why is it bashing a conference to simply state the facts in the face of overhyped and exaggerated claims?

Just as Memphis was bigger than CUSA and Gonzaga is bigger than the WCC, UConn is bigger than the AAC. What they have done reflects very little on the rest of the conference because the rest simply don't have accomplishments on their level, Noting that the Memphis run to Final Four was vacated in 2008, the rest of the AAC other than UConn hasn't had anyone else make it to the Final Four in the last 20 years. And Cincy's Ff in 1992 is the only fF by an AAC team not named UConn and not vacated in the last 40 years. With 6 members for next year having RPI rank worse than 140 and 4 over 200, this is simply not Avery good basketball conference.

Uconn is the hot trophy wife and the AAC is the squirrelly hedge fund guy trying to buy her affection. You know that couple with the big house, 5 car garage, boat, that always smile and wave when they come out but are always arguing at night, sometimes the police come out. That relationship won't last & it won't end cheap.....and that's when Big (East) Poppa steps in for some lovin!


Stunning visual there. Well done.
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