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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby TheHall » Sat May 03, 2014 2:18 pm

BEX wrote:MM label just used by laziest of media anymore. It is totally based on FB conferences. Relevant to BB? No. When some announcer uses it, I just figure the guy is ignorant.
Is UCF BB a "high Major" now cuz their FB team won a Bowl Game?

When you look at TV contracts & exposure or sneaker/apparel deals the difference between high major & mid major becomes undeniably evident. If there wasn't such a huge difference then there wouldn't be so many schools vying for a BE invite. Hi/Mid major has nothing to do with winning & losing on the court like redman tries to make it seem when taking shots at SHU. The increased parity on the court nowadays hasn't spread to the $$ part of cbb. That's why these labels are really conference labels not team label. I think BCS conference is the lazy & irrelevant label not High/Mid Major conference. But I do agree it's out dated when it comes to judging the on court strength of programs.
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Postby BillikensWin » Sat May 03, 2014 2:39 pm

TheHall wrote:
BEX wrote:MM label just used by laziest of media anymore. It is totally based on FB conferences. Relevant to BB? No. When some announcer uses it, I just figure the guy is ignorant.
Is UCF BB a "high Major" now cuz their FB team won a Bowl Game?

When you look at TV contracts & exposure or sneaker/apparel deals the difference between high major & mid major becomes undeniably evident. If there wasn't such a huge difference then there wouldn't be so many schools vying for a BE invite. Hi/Mid major has nothing to do with winning & losing on the court like redman tries to make it seem when taking shots at SHU. The increased parity on the court nowadays hasn't spread to the $$ part of cbb. That's why these labels are really conference labels not team label. I think BCS conference is the lazy & irrelevant label not High/Mid Major conference. But I do agree it's out dated when it comes to judging the on court strength of programs.


You used the label as an insult to Saint Louis, who is better on the floor than Seton Hall. Mid-major is a demeaning, insulting term used to make fun of schools. It's a major, major insult. I'd rather be called dirty than mid-major.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby BillikensWin » Sat May 03, 2014 2:59 pm

I apologize to anyone offended by my comments. I hate the term mid-major, and it's really frustrating to see it applied.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby Bill Marsh » Sat May 03, 2014 4:21 pm

BEX wrote:MM label just used by laziest of media anymore. It is totally based on FB conferences. Relevant to BB? No. When some announcer uses it, I just figure the guy is ignorant.
Is UCF BB a "high Major" now cuz their FB team won a Bowl Game?


The mid major label was invented by the coach of a Catholic mid major school strictly in reference to college basketball.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby senditinjerome » Sat May 03, 2014 5:41 pm

UCF is a BCS buster in FB...i've never heard anyone refer to an upstart college FB team from a non-power conference as a "mid-major". However, now that the BCS is officially dismantled, they have to come up with a new moniker.

AAC is in a grey area regarding b-ball...they're definitely not a "major", but on the other hand, they're much better than a mid-major (the A-10 for instance).
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby BillikensWin » Sat May 03, 2014 5:55 pm

senditinjerome wrote:UCF is a BCS buster in FB...i've never heard anyone refer to an upstart college FB team from a non-power conference as a "mid-major". However, now that the BCS is officially dismantled, they have to come up with a new moniker.

AAC is in a grey area regarding b-ball...they're definitely not a "major", but on the other hand, they're much better than a mid-major (the A-10 for instance).


Again, here is an example of the term used in a pejorative sense...the only way it exists.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby BillikensWin » Sat May 03, 2014 8:15 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
BEX wrote:MM label just used by laziest of media anymore. It is totally based on FB conferences. Relevant to BB? No. When some announcer uses it, I just figure the guy is ignorant.
Is UCF BB a "high Major" now cuz their FB team won a Bowl Game?


The mid major label was invented by the coach of a Catholic mid major school strictly in reference to college basketball.


I don't follow history all that closely (as you can tell). Catholic University was/is a mid-major? Don't know a whole lot about them.
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby HoosierPal » Sat May 03, 2014 8:29 pm

senditinjerome wrote:AAC is in a grey area regarding b-ball...they're definitely not a "major", but on the other hand, they're much better than a mid-major (the A-10 for instance).


The AAC members this past year included three of the last four NCAA Champs. If that isn't "major" then there is no "major".
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

Postby robinreed » Sun May 04, 2014 4:35 am

What do the last 10 or so posts have to do with our commissioner?
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Re: Commissioner "Val"

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