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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby cufan10 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:18 pm

A question I have is what has Val been doing with regards to this discussion. I hope she has been vocal in protecting the Big East interest with this discussion going on. A little worried that with getting a late start at organizing the new Big East she might not have been as vocal on this as she should be. Anyway, as a Jays fan being in the Big East is alot better than if we were still in the MVC. Still concerned though, do not want football to bring down college basketball and march madness.
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby flyerlax06 » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:25 pm

cufan10 wrote:A question I have is what has Val been doing with regards to this discussion. I hope she has been vocal in protecting the Big East interest with this discussion going on. A little worried that with getting a late start at organizing the new Big East she might not have been as vocal on this as she should be. Anyway, as a Jays fan being in the Big East is alot better than if we were still in the MVC. Still concerned though, do not want football to bring down college basketball and march madness.


Even if Val was being vocal, I don't think it would matter. It's clear these 5 conferences and 65 schools within those conferences are the most powerful.
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby robinreed » Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:38 am

"The board will seek feedback on some questions raised by members of governance bodies in recent days, including: the process by which items decided by the full division could become part of the list of autonomous areas; the voting, interpretation and enforcement processes within the five highest-profile conferences; and the core structure that separates not only the five highest-profile conferences into their own group but also continues a separation of the next five conferences (the American Athletic Conference, Conference-USA, Mid-American Conference, Mountain West Conference and Sun Belt Conference) from the remaining 22."

Does this mean the so called P5 and G5 will have their own division (either separate or more probably together?) If so our conference leadership needs to get to work immediately. If the 10 football D1a conferences form their own division they will have little regard for the interests or welfare of the BE, A10 or any primarily basketball conference and we are truly screwed.

I may be misinterpreting the meaning and intent of this paragraph. Opinions please, what does it mean? If they are talking about their own division is it for administration and regulation making only or is it broader in nature?
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby ohiohsbball » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:46 am

Bill Marsh wrote:This whole thing is a complete joke.

It includes a proposa that "student athletes" spend as much as 50 hours per week on their sport. Last time I looked, that's a full time job with 10 hour work days. Some jobs require that workers get paid overtime with days that long.

BUT these are STUDENT-athletes - full time students at that. They are supposed to be full time students who also work a full time job with long hours???

This entire proposal proceeds in this same hypocritical, contradictory vein. The fat cats who run college sports are making a fortune getting rich off these kids, while pretending that they're interested in amateurism and education. Let's call it what it is. They are running minor league sports and the colleges are rolling over and letting themselves be used.

This entire thing disgusts me.


I agree with you 100%, it is really a shame. At first realignment was kind of neat to see a few teams shifts to see new match-ups, but this is awful. I love college football, but the sad reality is college football has killed all other NCAA sports. Exactly what happens to the Big East, A10, MVC, and other basketball leagues remains to be seen, but it does appear there will be a different set of rules.

I pray to God I'm wrong, because the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament are the greatest days of the year; but my fear is the days of seeing non BCS schools make runs in the tournament like VCU, George Mason, Kent State, Gonzaga, Butler, and this year Dayton could be soon gone forever. It know it was at the expense of a BE school, but even last year what Florida Gulf Coast did was fun to watch. Here's to hoping football doesn't ruin those moments.
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby FormulaX » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:07 am

This is scary and crazy. I hope, all the other (non-65) schools ban together quick. Tell them they are on their own. Have fun filling out your schedules without us. IN ANYTHING.
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby JRoc » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:09 am

Greed has ruined the NCAA. Were there a stipened in place years ago this is a non issue. What has the NCAA done with the BILLIONS its made over the years? Making rules that dont protect the athlete. You cant even send a kid home on a plane when there is a death in the family or someone hands the kid a cheeseburger. Greed.

Players have valid points but Greed is also driving them. They didnt have to sign LOIs, if they think they can make it to the pro level in FB, BB, Baseball, whatever they could go to open tryouts if there are any anymore. A degree lasts a lifetime, the opportunity to get noticed by professional teams is invaluable, if you dont have that kind of talent, play the game for the love of the game or dont play.

Schools are making in a lot of BCS cases over 50 million a year. Greed drives them too. Player worship, spending wars for the best facilities, inserting every type of toy into player facilities they can, all driven by Greed.


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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby SCS » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:10 am

FormulaX wrote:This is scary and crazy. I hope, all the other (non-65) schools ban together quick. Tell them they are on their own. Have fun filling out your schedules without us. IN ANYTHING.

That is a bad idea.... that would make all of the other colleges in a lesser division.
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby LeMoyne00 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:34 pm

What would the state then do with the Rent, the 40,000+ seat football stadium built in the last decade for the Huskies in Hartford if they dropped their football program?
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby adoraz11 » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:45 pm

So would Big East schools not be able to implement the same rules?

If so that's the biggest blow possible.
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Re: So What Does This Mean for the Big East?

Postby DudeAnon » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:16 pm

adoraz11 wrote:So would Big East schools not be able to implement the same rules?

If so that's the biggest blow possible.


If things go as planned, we would be bound by the rules of the NCAA while the P5 could make their own. (On points pointed out earlier, mainly student stipends etc.)
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