First Season In The Books: How Did The Big East Do?

[HoosierPal]

re: history

When we paid for the name, we paid for the history and records as well. So, while you may be saying figuratively there is no history because this was year 1, we literally own the history and records from 1979-present.

I've never understood this. Please tell me the value of the history and records. Does it bring in $$? I for one wouldn't pay to look at the record book, and it is totally irrelative to now and the future. Just like Butler's Final Four appearances have no meaning in the New Big East records, why are Syracuse's and Louisville's history important? School records are fine and meaningful, but conference records when the teamss change, not so much.

Leave the past behind, and look to the future.

The American Athletic Conference seemed to fair pretty well without the Big East record book or the Big East name this year.

[bman95]

Hoosierpal....If history isn't important than why are people constantly writing or bringing up conference tournament or regular season records? If somebody breaks the record for most 3's in a BE tourn game, then that means something. If someone breaks the # of 3's in the American tourn game, then it means nothing.

[HoosierPal]

Hoosierpal.... If somebody breaks the record for most 3's in a BE tourn game, then that means something. If someone breaks the # of 3's in the American tourn game, then it means nothing.

Huh? It means a lot if the last three won the game. [Still confused.] What value does the 2013 Louisville National Championship have to this year's BE?

[bman95]

There is no benifet to the BE that Louisville won the championship last year because all of those credits stayed with the American as part of the separation agreement. Legally the C7 had a case that the name was ours anyway , but the 75 million was left behind so that we could kick everyone out in 6 months as opposed to 2 years.
We didn't leave that money behind for records or that BE emblem that isn't even that nice, it was for everything. Name, MSG contract etc. we are starting to see the benifet of keeping the name as current BE schools are recruiting well while American schools aren't doing as well as they would have if ghey were still in the BE. All of those schools and those great players that Cinci has as well as uconn were built in the BE.

[stever20]

There is no benifet to the BE that Louisville won the championship last year because all of those credits stayed with the American as part of the separation agreement. Legally the C7 had a case that the name was ours anyway , but the 75 million was left behind so that we could kick everyone out in 6 months as opposed to 2 years.
We didn't leave that money behind for records or that BE emblem that isn't even that nice, it was for everything. Name, MSG contract etc. we are starting to see the benifet of keeping the name as current BE schools are recruiting well while American schools aren't doing as well as they would have if ghey were still in the BE. All of those schools and those great players that Cinci has as well as uconn were built in the BE.

2015 the AAC is recruiting very well so far. Think they have already as many top 100 recruits as they did last year. I think the fact this year was such a sucess for them(and it was) does nothing but help them for the future. you're going to find the AAC going forward will do a LOT better. Last year's recruiting wasn't good but you could totally understand that given the unknown. Now, the AAC is much more of a known quanity.

The AAC isn't going to be going away any time soon at all. UConn has 2 top 70 recruits already and you know what Ollie has done here will do nothing but help him in recruiting.

[flyerlax06]

Recruiting totals for 4 and 5 star players in 2014 via 247 sports:

Conference 5 Star 4 Star Total 4 +5 Stars
ACC 7 15 22
AAC 2 9 11
A10 0 1 1
B12 2 6 8
BE 1 17 18
B10 1 10 11
P12 2 15 17
SEC 3 14 17

[HoosierPal]

Recruiting totals for 4 and 5 star players in 2014 via 247 sports:

Conference 5 Star 4 Star Total 4 +5 Stars
ACC 7 15 22
AAC 2 9 11
A10 0 1 1
B12 2 6 8
BE 1 17 18
B10 1 10 11
P12 2 15 17
SEC 3 14 17

Once you get past the McDonald AA, Stars are meaningless. One of many, many examples. Victor Oladipo was rated a 3 star coming out of HS. He was an impact freshman at IU and a candidate for NBA Rookie of the year.

[flyerlax06]

Recruiting totals for 4 and 5 star players in 2014 via 247 sports:

Conference 5 Star 4 Star Total 4 +5 Stars
ACC 7 15 22
AAC 2 9 11
A10 0 1 1
B12 2 6 8
BE 1 17 18
B10 1 10 11
P12 2 15 17
SEC 3 14 17

Once you get past the McDonald AA, Stars are meaningless.

Not sure I'd say meaningless. They are a decent barometer for a high level look at what kind of recruits are heading to each conference.