Collegiate Players Union

[DudeAnon]

I think you guys are putting the emphasis on the wrong part of this ruling. Sure, it says that the private school student/athletes can unionize, which the public ones cannot. But the important part is that the NLRB regional head stated that the players are employees. THAT would apply to ALL student/athletes, private or public. As such, they all would be afforded employee rights across the board, private or not. That includes minimum wage pay, workers comp, on and on. Yes, the union part is big, but the recognition that the players are employees is more important, because that means public or private, they all are employees in the eyes of the NLRB.

Just wait till the IRS starts taxing the value of that scholarship...

What's wrong with that?

[ChelseaFriar]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

[DudeAnon]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

Or you could unionize and demand a higher salary. Which they are going to do.

[ChelseaFriar]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

Or you could unionize and demand a higher salary. Which they are going to do.

Fair enough. Wouldn't fly in my industry so I have a completely different mindset (however, my mother was in a union but wasn't active). In my industry you would get your 3 weeks severance for every year served, an additional severance bonus, and be shown the door.

[BEhomer]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

haha. so espn's argument is that the players don't want to pay taxes so they'd rather make no money? any taxes they are liable for will all be part of the contract that the union bargains for.

[butlerguy03]

Is it possible that in 10 years, we could see an AAU type organization of the NCAA? With teams loosely connected with each university by using facilities and paying for school names? Selling their own advertising, etc.

[BEhomer]

Is it possible that in 10 years, we could see an AAU type organization of the NCAA? With teams loosely connected with each university by using facilities and paying for school names? Selling their own advertising, etc.

I see this leading to a hybrid minor league for pro sports with end game very possibly being the MLB minor leagues.

[Randy]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

The problem is there is no viable substitution for football and men's basketball within the boarders of the united states. that is the whole point. What goes on in europe is irrelevant. That is why this is an anti trust case. The NCAA currently has a monopoly on training for professional career in athletics, and they cap the price for labor at a scholarship.

That is the heart of the issue. The union, employee status, profiting off of likenesses are all secondary. The NCAA currently has a monopoly in the United States, and they are exploiting it.

(at least that is the argument. you could counter with NBA D league, but most would argue that is not a viable substitution)

[ChelseaFriar]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

The problem is there is no viable substitution for football and men's basketball within the boarders of the united states. that is the whole point. What goes in in europe is irrelvant. That is why this is an ant trust case. The NCAA currently has a monopoly on training for professional carrerr in athletics, and they cap the price for labor at a scholarship.

That is the heart of the issue. The union, employee status, profiting off of likenesses are all secondary. The NCAA currently has a monopoly in the United States, and they are exploiting it.

(at least that is the argument. you could counter with NBA D league, but most would argue that is not a viable substitution)

Good points. As you can see, I'm a novice in employment law and have no experience in dealings in an industry with Unions.

[ChelseaFriar]

Pay each individual what they are worth, simple.

If my company isn't paying me what I think is my fair market value what should I do? Find a new employer, right? So these guys can go play hoops in Europe if they don't think the scholarship is enough payment. Nobody is forcing them to play college sports. Canadian Football League is an option. Is NFL Europe still around?


Article on taxes:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10683398/tax-implications-create-hurdle-players-union

haha. so espn's argument is that the players don't want to pay taxes so they'd rather make no money? any taxes they are liable for will all be part of the contract that the union bargains for.

Well, it ultimately depends on how much of their taxable income is in the form of cash. If they are taxed on scholarship, training services, coaching, travel expenses etc. they better negotiate a salary that covers all of that. I doubt it ever comes to that but just going off of the article.