This year's BET has officially killed any respectability

[Trifecta]

Expansion Rumor: St. John's to the A-10. They're going to get way more tournament teams and the Big East is dead. Great move for them.

Can we trade SJU for SLU? All in favor?

[cujaysfan]

The other conferences will have a field day with this. PC, SHU, and DePaul advance while SJ, Nova, and G'Town tap out. That is awful. Pathetic. Unacceptable. If someone would have said "Wanna bet that SJ, Nova, and G'Town all lose in the first round?" a week ago, I would have bet my car against that.

Our perception is extremely weak now. Glad PC won, and SHU got the upset, and DePaul got the upset, but the truth is those can't be the ones leading the way if we want to be taken seriously. What a terrible first year so far. Our only hope is Nova or Creighton making a deep run. But that seems very unlikely the way things have played out recently.

RIP old Big East.

[gosports1]

hmmm, so we keep hearing how teams such as depaul need to step it up or how seton hall and providence arent carrying their weight. That the BE needs quality teams blah blah blah. So now that these teams actually win its somehow bad for the league and the BE will become a laughing stock

Is a 10 seed upsetting a 7 really that shocking? If depaul had beaten villanova during the regular season and not during the BE tourney would that have been an easier loss to swallow? Nova losing could be a good thing for them. Maybe they'll be more rested and able to go further in the big tourney.
Providence was the higher seed. Somehow if they lost I could see the same gloomy naysayers crying how it was emabarrasing that a number 4 seed was upset by a lower one.
If xavier loses to marquette, is that acceptable because Marquette has the "name" or it is the end of the world since a 3 seed lost to a 6?
The real test will be how villanova and creighton do in the "big dance"

some people love to be miserable.

[BillikensWin]

Expansion Rumor: St. John's to the A-10. They're going to get way more tournament teams and the Big East is dead. Great move for them.

Can we trade SJU for SLU? All in favor?

I'll vote for that, and not because it's St. John's specifically.

[SJHooper]

Wow…people saying to relax? I'm not going off the deep end. This is not foreign stuff I'm talking about. You can talk about upsets being good all you want, but it's like the AL East with the Yanks and Red Sox bowing out early. It's not the same. Respectability is lost. The next time some one is forced to defend the AL East it becomes much harder because they can say the 2 premier teams sucked. Same goes for the Big East. It is what it is, right or wrong the engine of this conference goes through SJ, G'Town, Nova, and Marquette. Creighton too if somehow they can keep finding 2 star players and convert them into Wooden players but the odds are not in favor of that.

Did a Creighton fan really just curse me out via a meme while another one asked if SJ could be replaced with SL? Are you kidding? Listen noob, this is your first year in major competition away from your little rickety MVC. You haven't earned your stripes yet here. Even if you make it to the Final Four which will be near impossible, next year you lose everyone. EVERYONE. It may shock your fan base because many of you don't seem to know what's on the horizon. You are like the new guy in a frat that thinks he's one of the boys already. An intern that tells his elders off. If it weren't for our conference you would still be a mid major being made fun of by fans who say you only face crappy MVC teams (like Wichita State fans are going through now). Most of the Creighton fans have been fun to have here and very classy but a few of you guys are disrespectful and have no idea where your place is as a noob. Imagine a SJ fan posting a "How about a big cup of shut the f--- up?" meme on a Nova or Creighton fan's post? Oh man it would be WWIII.

I'm not overreacting and I'm not even pissed specifically at SJ. I knew we'd probably lose. I'm angry at the WHOLE situation. The first few years set the stage and can set the expectations for what this conference is and how fans will take it. I know there are going to be years we are like the A-10 clicking on all cylinders, but I just hope to god they are far more numerous than years like this.

[itsmejpt]

LOL... you're acting like St Johns is a powerhouse.

St. Johns is not in Nova or Georgetown's league.

St. Johns, Providence and Seton Hall have been middle-of-the-pack to bottom feeder teams for the past 10 years.

Also, your argument doesn't make sense. Are people saying the western conference sucks this year because the Lakers are not making the playoffs?

This.

[itsmejpt]

Are all st. Johns fans this unhinged/reactionary or just the majority of the ones on this board?

Nope. That's pretty much all of them.

[whiteandblue77]

The only way MU and X could make an ass of themselves is if Buzz and Mack put their heads together

[cujaysfan]

yep - i believe that meme is appropriate for your original post

and let's not pretend that st john's has done jack since louie retired - you're about 25 games over .500 since then - so we really don't need any lectures from you on, well - about anything BE related.

you're consistently the worst poster on this forum.

so there's that - congrats

[Bill Marsh]

yep - i believe that meme is appropriate for your original post

and let's not pretend that st john's has done jack since louie retired - you're about 25 games over .500 since then - so we really don't need any lectures from you on, well - about anything BE related.

you're consistently the worst poster on this forum.

so there's that - congrats

Let's notget carried away. Regardless of how annoying the poster, St. John's has had their moments since Louie retired. They've made the tournament 6 times,going to the Elite 8 in 1999 and getting to the tournament in 2000 by winning a Big East tournament championship. I'd call that doing jack.