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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby adoraz11 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:16 pm

Can someone explain why St John's rpi rank on dance card is 13 spots lower than other sites like ESPN???
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:28 pm

adoraz11 wrote:Can someone explain why St John's rpi rank on dance card is 13 spots lower than other sites like ESPN???

Dance Card uses the old RPI for some reason.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby adoraz11 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:15 pm

stever20 wrote:
adoraz11 wrote:Can someone explain why St John's rpi rank on dance card is 13 spots lower than other sites like ESPN???

Dance Card uses the old RPI for some reason.


wasn't aware there was an old rpi. damn I hope the committee considers it.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:17 pm

adoraz11 wrote:
stever20 wrote:
adoraz11 wrote:Can someone explain why St John's rpi rank on dance card is 13 spots lower than other sites like ESPN???

Dance Card uses the old RPI for some reason.


wasn't aware there was an old rpi. damn I hope the committee considers it.

yeah they tweaked it to put more weight on road/neutral games. Don't think the committee sees it even.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby adoraz11 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:19 pm

stever20 wrote:
adoraz11 wrote:
stever20 wrote:wasn't aware there was an old rpi. damn I hope the committee considers it.

yeah they tweaked it to put more weight on road/neutral games. Don't think the committee sees it even.


wonder why dance card uses the old system and has been so accurate then. I mean there's a huge difference between 45 and 58 for SJU.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:25 pm

dunno.

One other possibility is that Dance Card has Abilene Christian and Incarnate Word in there as D1 schools, and they aren't for NCAA RPI purposes. So maybe some teams in that 45-58 range played one of those, and so their RPI would get inflated a bit due to that.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby ruechalgrin » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:43 pm

stever20 wrote:dunno.

One other possibility is that Dance Card has Abilene Christian and Incarnate Word in there as D1 schools, and they aren't for NCAA RPI purposes. So maybe some teams in that 45-58 range played one of those, and so their RPI would get inflated a bit due to that.


Dance card simply did not want to change the algorithm that was working. They factor in road/neutral wins, record, etc. already as part of the algorithm. So St. John's and others get the benefit of road/neutral wins already in the algorithm. I wouldn't worry about old RPI in their formula. Just part of it.
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Postby whiteandblue77 » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:52 pm

We're a 2-bid league if Villanova or Creighton wins in NYC, 3-bid league if someone else wins.

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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby SJUREDMEN85 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:27 pm

adoraz11 wrote:I feel the winner of sju Providence makes it. Otherwise, we are looking at a three bid league maximum (barring a big upset by GT) which is ridiculous for the third best conference.


Give \me two wins just to be sure of getting in.
Yeah it be against nova, but if they want in the ncaa tourny, then they better beat them.
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Re: How many more wins each team needs to get in

Postby adoraz11 » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:22 pm

SJUREDMEN85 wrote:
adoraz11 wrote:I feel the winner of sju Providence makes it. Otherwise, we are looking at a three bid league maximum (barring a big upset by GT) which is ridiculous for the third best conference.


Give \me two wins just to be sure of getting in.
Yeah it be against nova, but if they want in the ncaa tourny, then they better beat them.


Hey I'm a sju fan and right there with you. I want two wins but it'll be tough
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