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Postby SJHooper » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:55 pm

Come to MSG vs. our full squad totally healthy. We are a different team at MSG.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby mpwalsh8 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:35 am

SJHooper wrote:Come to MSG vs. our full squad totally healthy. We are a different team at MSG.


That game was already played back on January 11th and Villanova won. If the Villanova and St. John's play again during the BET, it wouldn't surprise me if SJU were to win. SJU is a good team but they're not a great team. But they are good enough to beat anyone in the Big East on any given day. Almost the same thing can be said of the top 7-8 Big East teams. SJU also needs a marquis win waaaaaaaaaaay more than Villanova needs to beat SJU for the third time. Some teams are desperate this time of the year and are playing for their their NCAA tournament life. PC, SJU, and to some extent Marquette are all in this boat.

It wouldn't surprise me to see VU drop a game to either Xavier or Georgetown this week. I would prefer it didn't happen but it wouldn't surprise me. The Georgetown game in particular could be lost because it is downtown and it is during spring break. The crowd may not be very big or very vocal.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby SJHooper » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:41 am

mpwalsh8 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:Come to MSG vs. our full squad totally healthy. We are a different team at MSG.


That game was already played back on January 11th and Villanova won. If the Villanova and St. John's play again during the BET, it wouldn't surprise me if SJU were to win. SJU is a good team but they're not a great team. But they are good enough to beat anyone in the Big East on any given day. Almost the same thing can be said of the top 7-8 Big East teams. SJU also needs a marquis win waaaaaaaaaaay more than Villanova needs to beat SJU for the third time. Some teams are desperate this time of the year and are playing for their their NCAA tournament life. PC, SJU, and to some extent Marquette are all in this boat.

It wouldn't surprise me to see VU drop a game to either Xavier or Georgetown this week. I would prefer it didn't happen but it wouldn't surprise me. The Georgetown game in particular could be lost because it is downtown and it is during spring break. The crowd may not be very big or very vocal.


But we have only been balling since Feb ;)
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby mpwalsh8 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:32 am

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mpwalsh8 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:Come to MSG vs. our full squad totally healthy. We are a different team at MSG.


That game was already played back on January 11th and Villanova won. If the Villanova and St. John's play again during the BET, it wouldn't surprise me if SJU were to win. SJU is a good team but they're not a great team. But they are good enough to beat anyone in the Big East on any given day. Almost the same thing can be said of the top 7-8 Big East teams. SJU also needs a marquis win waaaaaaaaaaay more than Villanova needs to beat SJU for the third time. Some teams are desperate this time of the year and are playing for their their NCAA tournament life. PC, SJU, and to some extent Marquette are all in this boat.

It wouldn't surprise me to see VU drop a game to either Xavier or Georgetown this week. I would prefer it didn't happen but it wouldn't surprise me. The Georgetown game in particular could be lost because it is downtown and it is during spring break. The crowd may not be very big or very vocal.


But we have only been balling since Feb ;)


Which explains exactly why SJU finds itself on the wrong side of the bubble. All of the games count. The rest of the country started balling back in early November. What did SJU do? Handicap the field just to make the season more interesting? :shock:
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:57 pm

mpwalsh8 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:Come to MSG vs. our full squad totally healthy. We are a different team at MSG.


That game was already played back on January 11th and Villanova won. If the Villanova and St. John's play again during the BET, it wouldn't surprise me if SJU were to win. SJU is a good team but they're not a great team. But they are good enough to beat anyone in the Big East on any given day. Almost the same thing can be said of the top 7-8 Big East teams. SJU also needs a marquis win waaaaaaaaaaay more than Villanova needs to beat SJU for the third time. Some teams are desperate this time of the year and are playing for their their NCAA tournament life. PC, SJU, and to some extent Marquette are all in this boat.

It wouldn't surprise me to see VU drop a game to either Xavier or Georgetown this week. I would prefer it didn't happen but it wouldn't surprise me. The Georgetown game in particular could be lost because it is downtown and it is during spring break. The crowd may not be very big or very vocal.


It wouldn't surprise me either to see Villanova drop a game this week.

If Villanova meets St. John's in the tournament, I've gotta like St. John's chances. Not only do they have home court, but it's really hard to beat a good team 3 times in the same season and that's what Villanova would have to do.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby Phillycat » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:00 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
mpwalsh8 wrote:
SJHooper wrote:Come to MSG vs. our full squad totally healthy. We are a different team at MSG.


That game was already played back on January 11th and Villanova won. If the Villanova and St. John's play again during the BET, it wouldn't surprise me if SJU were to win. SJU is a good team but they're not a great team. But they are good enough to beat anyone in the Big East on any given day. Almost the same thing can be said of the top 7-8 Big East teams. SJU also needs a marquis win waaaaaaaaaaay more than Villanova needs to beat SJU for the third time. Some teams are desperate this time of the year and are playing for their their NCAA tournament life. PC, SJU, and to some extent Marquette are all in this boat.

It wouldn't surprise me to see VU drop a game to either Xavier or Georgetown this week. I would prefer it didn't happen but it wouldn't surprise me. The Georgetown game in particular could be lost because it is downtown and it is during spring break. The crowd may not be very big or very vocal.


It wouldn't surprise me either to see Villanova drop a game this week.

If Villanova meets St. John's in the tournament, I've gotta like St. John's chances. Not only do they have home court, but it's really hard to beat a good team 3 times in the same season and that's what Villanova would have to do.


Not sold on the fact the the johnnies would have home court in the BET. Yea they play there but with the amount of nova alumni living in NYC, east coast alumni making the trip up or down, and tickets not being sold like a regular St. John's home game, home court seems negligible. If anything it might sound and feel like a pro nova crowd. I'd expect another battle if the matchup happened again given St. John's is fighting for their post season lives.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:06 pm

Phillycat wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:
mpwalsh8 wrote:
That game was already played back on January 11th and Villanova won. If the Villanova and St. John's play again during the BET, it wouldn't surprise me if SJU were to win. SJU is a good team but they're not a great team. But they are good enough to beat anyone in the Big East on any given day. Almost the same thing can be said of the top 7-8 Big East teams. SJU also needs a marquis win waaaaaaaaaaay more than Villanova needs to beat SJU for the third time. Some teams are desperate this time of the year and are playing for their their NCAA tournament life. PC, SJU, and to some extent Marquette are all in this boat.

It wouldn't surprise me to see VU drop a game to either Xavier or Georgetown this week. I would prefer it didn't happen but it wouldn't surprise me. The Georgetown game in particular could be lost because it is downtown and it is during spring break. The crowd may not be very big or very vocal.


It wouldn't surprise me either to see Villanova drop a game this week.

If Villanova meets St. John's in the tournament, I've gotta like St. John's chances. Not only do they have home court, but it's really hard to beat a good team 3 times in the same season and that's what Villanova would have to do.


Not sold on the fact the the johnnies would have home court in the BET. Yea they play there but with the amount of nova alumni living in NYC, east coast alumni making the trip up or down, and tickets not being sold like a regular St. John's home game, home court seems negligible. If anything it might sound and feel like a pro nova crowd. I'd expect another battle if the matchup happened again given St. John's is fighting for their post season lives.


Crowd support isn't the only thing that makes up the home court advantage. It's also familiarity. It's the fact that the home team doesn't have to travel and are not living out of a suitcase.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby Westbrook36 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:51 pm

I'd say Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, and Seton Hall are all pretty damn familiar with MSG, having played there at least 2 or 3 times a year(sometimes more). I'd also venture to guess at this point in all are very comfortable with accommodations in NYC, with all that I'd say St. John's has a slight home court advantage for the BE tourney nothing more or they would have much better recent results.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:37 pm

Westbrook36 wrote:I'd say Villanova, Georgetown, Providence, and Seton Hall are all pretty damn familiar with MSG, having played there at least 2 or 3 times a year(sometimes more). I'd also venture to guess at this point in all are very comfortable with accommodations in NYC, with all that I'd say St. John's has a slight home court advantage for the BE tourney nothing more or they would have much better recent results.


Not Providence. Except for one and done in March, they haven't played a regular season game there in almost 10 years. Seton Hall hasn't been a regular there either. One regular season game there in the past 3 years, which is pretty much the history of the current players.

Even for Villanova and Georgetown who have played more games in March, that's simply not the same as playing there 10-12 games a year. With no home and home in the old Big East they normally came to town once every 2 years. So, no, they haven't been playing there 1-3 times per year.

Home court advantage is home court advantage. Even NBA teams whose opponents come to town multiple times per year don't lose hoe court advantage when their opponents have increased exposure to the court. It's reflected in their records.
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Re: Sun 3/2, Marquette (9-6) at #8 Villanova (13-2), 2pm CBS

Postby LTVU » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:21 pm

Villanova has won 8 in a row against St. John's at the garden.
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