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Postby redmen9194 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:05 pm

Nova, Creighton, Xavier, Providence and the Johnnies are in the latest Bracketology. Of note, the ACC has five and no other conference has more than six.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:16 pm

redmen9194 wrote:Nova, Creighton, Xavier, Providence and the Johnnies are in the latest Bracketology. Of note, the ACC has five and no other conference has more than six.


I think he may be a little overly optimistic. Providence and St. John's still have a little work to do IMO.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby marquette » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:19 pm

Palm has 5 as well. PC and G'town are in play in.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:35 pm

marquette wrote:Palm has 5 as well. PC and G'town are in play in.


I think that St. John's, Providence, and or Georgetown all have a shot but need at least one more upset to get there.

St.John's has road games left against Villanova and Marquette. I think they need to beat Marquette, which they should be favored to do, and them need either a win over Villanova OR a significant win in the BE tournament other than the 7-10 round.

I think that PC needs to beat both Butler and Seton Hall on the road - not an easy task - and beat Marquette at home. Then They need an upset over either either Villanova or Creighton. They get Novaat home and so, have a better shot there. If they can do that, they're in. If not, then they need a significant win at MSG (not 7-10).

Georgetown also has a formidable schedule remaining. They need to win 3 of their final games and heat a significant win in the BE tourney.

At least that's the way I see it.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby MUBoxer » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:18 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:
marquette wrote:Palm has 5 as well. PC and G'town are in play in.


I think that St. John's, Providence, and or Georgetown all have a shot but need at least one more upset to get there.

St.John's has road games left against Villanova and Marquette. I think they need to beat Marquette, which they should be favored to do, and them need either a win over Villanova OR a significant win in the BE tournament other than the 7-10 round.

I think that PC needs to beat both Butler and Seton Hall on the road - not an easy task - and beat Marquette at home. Then They need an upset over either either Villanova or Creighton. They get Novaat home and so, have a better shot there. If they can do that, they're in. If not, then they need a significant win at MSG (not 7-10).

Georgetown also has a formidable schedule remaining. They need to win 3 of their final games and heat a significant win in the BE tourney.

At least that's the way I see it.


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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby notkirkcameron » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:14 pm

Personal interests aside, I am very intrigued by this week's Creighton-Marquette game.

Creighton only has two conference losses, but both were on the road to the Big East's "middle class," losing at Providence and at St. John's. Marquette has won 3 in a row for the first time all season. RPI Forecast lists Creighton as a 5.5 point favorite, but the Bradley Center is an awfully tough place to play. Even in the down season Marquette has had, since losing to Ohio State at home in November, MU has gone 8-1 at home, with the only loss being an overtime defeat to Villanova.

If Marquette is able to steal a win against Creighton, the schedule really opens up for them. This weekend it's a trip to a Cleveland Melvin-less DePaul, then four days off before Georgetown at home. The season ends with a road trip to Wells Fargo and the Dunk, then senior day at home against St. John's.

Lotta ifs, but if MU wins their three remaining home games (Creighton, Georgetown, St. John's), and goes 2-1 on the road at DePaul, at Providence, and against Villanova at Wells Fargo, Marquette would be 20-11 heading into Madison Square Garden. They'd probably need one more win to feel safe, but they would 100% be in the conversation.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:34 pm

notkirkcameron wrote:Personal interests aside, I am very intrigued by this week's Creighton-Marquette game.

Creighton only has two conference losses, but both were on the road to the Big East's "middle class," losing at Providence and at St. John's. Marquette has won 3 in a row for the first time all season. RPI Forecast lists Creighton as a 5.5 point favorite, but the Bradley Center is an awfully tough place to play. Even in the down season Marquette has had, since losing to Ohio State at home in November, MU has gone 8-1 at home, with the only loss being an overtime defeat to Villanova.

If Marquette is able to steal a win against Creighton, the schedule really opens up for them. This weekend it's a trip to a Cleveland Melvin-less DePaul, then four days off before Georgetown at home. The season ends with a road trip to Wells Fargo and the Dunk, then senior day at home against St. John's.

Lotta ifs, but if MU wins their three remaining home games (Creighton, Georgetown, St. John's), and goes 2-1 on the road at DePaul, at Providence, and against Villanova at Wells Fargo, Marquette would be 20-11 heading into Madison Square Garden. They'd probably need one more win to feel safe, but they would 100% be in the conversation.


I think you've got a shot at the upset, Kirk. Should be a close game, going right down to the wire. I'm picking Creighton by 3-5 points. But when it's that close, it's anyone's game. Marquette's been coming on strong the last few games, so a big upset could be the start of a late season surge.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby Dew » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:06 pm

It would take a crazy (though possible) series of events, but we could even get 6 in. For that to happen, Providence probably needs to beat Nova tomorrow.
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby Jet915 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:06 pm

Dew wrote:It would take a crazy (though possible) series of events, but we could even get 6 in. For that to happen, Providence probably needs to beat Nova tomorrow.


St. John's AND Providence beating Villanova this week would help....
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Re: Lunardi has five Big East teams in as if 2/17

Postby friars321 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:17 pm

I was hoping Gtown and PC would separate from the pack to make it 5 clear tourney teams. Knowing that St. Johns has the talent, depth, and ability to get hot and win our tournament to quite possibly get 6 teams in. Unfortunately the Red Storm peaked earlier than I thought and it now looks like 5 is the maximum.

MQ really hurt itself with the early season results.
Gtown has an extremely difficult schedule left.

And as crazy as a 3 game losing streak for NOVA sounds...I can see them losing @Providence which is a tough place to play when they are focused (see Creighton win). And it would not be a stretch for them to lose to maybe the best team in the conference TODAY in the Jonnies. The next couple weeks will be interesting.
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