Tuesday 2/4 Games

[Lavinwood]

We have no chance? That is false. We still have to face Creighton and Nova. Win 1 or both of those and take care of the Butlers and DePauls and we can be in business. Maybe doing that and getting a win or 2 in the BET. It's not crazy to do. If we have no shot then that means G'Town has none either? We have basically the same record as them. The only separation is that big win over MSU. If we beat Nova it's an even better win. If we beat Creighton at home which is entirely possible, there's our signature win. Then you finish at least .500 in conference and maybe win a game or 2 in the tourney…maybe win it all who knows? Do our chances look good right now? Obviously not. But I would not want my team facing this SJ team up backed into a corner. No matter what team in the conference.

The PC fan really acted like Creighton just played bad and we didn't earn respect from that? Um…our defense gave Creighton fits. Absolute fits. I believe we made them set a turnover record of some sort. They were no match athletically…not even close. The only difference was that they had a POY who scored 40 points and put the entire program on his back for that night. You tip your hat and move on. But if you don't think our defense was a big reason they only scored 63 and turned it over a ton, you are nuts. And you proved you didn't bother to watch the game. Here's to a good game tonight and no injuries for anyone.

[stever20]

We have no chance? That is false. We still have to face Creighton and Nova. Win 1 or both of those and take care of the Butlers and DePauls and we can be in business. Maybe doing that and getting a win or 2 in the BET. It's not crazy to do. If we have no shot then that means G'Town has none either? We have basically the same record as them. The only separation is that big win over MSU. If we beat Nova it's an even better win. If we beat Creighton at home which is entirely possible, there's our signature win. Then you finish at least .500 in conference and maybe win a game or 2 in the tourney…maybe win it all who knows? Do our chances look good right now? Obviously not. But I would not want my team facing this SJ team up backed into a corner. No matter what team in the conference.

The PC fan really acted like Creighton just played bad and we didn't earn respect from that? Um…our defense gave Creighton fits. Absolute fits. I believe we made them set a turnover record of some sort. They were no match athletically…not even close. The only difference was that they had a POY who scored 40 points and put the entire program on his back for that night. You tip your hat and move on. But if you don't think our defense was a big reason they only scored 63 and turned it over a ton, you are nuts. And you proved you didn't bother to watch the game. Here's to a good game tonight and no injuries for anyone.

Georgetown has wins over #8 Michigan St, #28 VCU, and #44 Kansas St and 76 St John's and 97 Butler. 3-6 vs RPI top 50 and 5-7 vs RPI top 100
St John's has wins over #86 Marquette, #89 San Francisco, and #97 Butler. 0-6 vs RPI top 50 and 3-8 vs RPI top 100
So right now, Georgetown has 4 wins better than anything that St John's has done. Also, Georgetown 5-6 away from home, while St John's is 3-6.

There's a reason why despite the exact same wins/losses record, Georgetown's RPI is 17 spots better. SOS. Georgetown 20, St John's 38.

[NJRedman]

We have no chance? That is false. We still have to face Creighton and Nova. Win 1 or both of those and take care of the Butlers and DePauls and we can be in business. Maybe doing that and getting a win or 2 in the BET. It's not crazy to do. If we have no shot then that means G'Town has none either? We have basically the same record as them. The only separation is that big win over MSU. If we beat Nova it's an even better win. If we beat Creighton at home which is entirely possible, there's our signature win. Then you finish at least .500 in conference and maybe win a game or 2 in the tourney…maybe win it all who knows? Do our chances look good right now? Obviously not. But I would not want my team facing this SJ team up backed into a corner. No matter what team in the conference.

The PC fan really acted like Creighton just played bad and we didn't earn respect from that? Um…our defense gave Creighton fits. Absolute fits. I believe we made them set a turnover record of some sort. They were no match athletically…not even close. The only difference was that they had a POY who scored 40 points and put the entire program on his back for that night. You tip your hat and move on. But if you don't think our defense was a big reason they only scored 63 and turned it over a ton, you are nuts. And you proved you didn't bother to watch the game. Here's to a good game tonight and no injuries for anyone.

Georgetown has wins over #8 Michigan St, #28 VCU, and #44 Kansas St and 76 St John's and 97 Butler. 3-6 vs RPI top 50 and 5-7 vs RPI top 100
St John's has wins over #86 Marquette, #89 San Francisco, and #97 Butler. 0-6 vs RPI top 50 and 3-8 vs RPI top 100
So right now, Georgetown has 4 wins better than anything that St John's has done. Also, Georgetown 5-6 away from home, while St John's is 3-6.

There's a reason why despite the exact same wins/losses record, Georgetown's RPI is 17 spots better. SOS. Georgetown 20, St John's 38.

17 spots in the RPI isn't a lot.

[SJUREDMEN85]

PC really needs to win this game. St. John's has zero top 50 wins and has no chance at an at-large but are playing very well of late. If PC loses this game, they are probably on the wrong side of the bubble. Any chance the Dunk will be packed today or is weather gonna be an issue?

Hey Jet, Creighton comes to MSG, and we go to Nova. I think if we win both and say finish 8-1 or maybe even 7-2 we could be on the bubble.
We cannot lose tonight, getting swept by a bubble team ends all talk of an ncaa bid.
So yeah PC needs this game but SJU is a desperate team and SJU is playing way better then when we took PC to 2OTs at Carnesecca.

So we`ll see what happens in less then 2 1/2 hrs.

[Bill Marsh]

PC really needs to win this game. St. John's has zero top 50 wins and has no chance at an at-large but are playing very well of late. If PC loses this game, they are probably on the wrong side of the bubble. Any chance the Dunk will be packed today or is weather gonna be an issue?

Weather will not be an issue in Rhode Island.

[stever20]

We have no chance? That is false. We still have to face Creighton and Nova. Win 1 or both of those and take care of the Butlers and DePauls and we can be in business. Maybe doing that and getting a win or 2 in the BET. It's not crazy to do. If we have no shot then that means G'Town has none either? We have basically the same record as them. The only separation is that big win over MSU. If we beat Nova it's an even better win. If we beat Creighton at home which is entirely possible, there's our signature win. Then you finish at least .500 in conference and maybe win a game or 2 in the tourney…maybe win it all who knows? Do our chances look good right now? Obviously not. But I would not want my team facing this SJ team up backed into a corner. No matter what team in the conference.

The PC fan really acted like Creighton just played bad and we didn't earn respect from that? Um…our defense gave Creighton fits. Absolute fits. I believe we made them set a turnover record of some sort. They were no match athletically…not even close. The only difference was that they had a POY who scored 40 points and put the entire program on his back for that night. You tip your hat and move on. But if you don't think our defense was a big reason they only scored 63 and turned it over a ton, you are nuts. And you proved you didn't bother to watch the game. Here's to a good game tonight and no injuries for anyone.

Georgetown has wins over #8 Michigan St, #28 VCU, and #44 Kansas St and 76 St John's and 97 Butler. 3-6 vs RPI top 50 and 5-7 vs RPI top 100
St John's has wins over #86 Marquette, #89 San Francisco, and #97 Butler. 0-6 vs RPI top 50 and 3-8 vs RPI top 100
So right now, Georgetown has 4 wins better than anything that St John's has done. Also, Georgetown 5-6 away from home, while St John's is 3-6.

There's a reason why despite the exact same wins/losses record, Georgetown's RPI is 17 spots better. SOS. Georgetown 20, St John's 38.

17 spots in the RPI isn't a lot.

except that it is a lot for having the exact same record.

Look at this-
Georgetown at 18-12 end of year. projected RPI is 48.9 5-3 rest of season
St John's at 20-11 end of year. projected RPI is 53.9 7-2 rest of season

So St John's- despite going 1 1/2 games better than Georgetown rest of the way would still be 5 spots behind Georgetown. That's with both teams playing pretty much the exact same schedule rest of the way.

And last week- Georgetown played 2 top 10 teams- going 1-1, and saw their RPI go up by only 10 spots. It's not like you see wild swings by this point of the year.

[ReynoldsWrap]

St. John's @ Providence is going to be a battle tonight, looking forward to it! Both teams have been playing well, and we'll see two of the best guards in the league - Cotton and Harrison - going at it. I see Providence winning a close one at home -- sorry SJU fans. Not exactly a bold prediction considering the line is Providence -3, but it's hard to envision either team running away with this one.

[NJRedman]

There's a reason why despite the exact same wins/losses record, Georgetown's RPI is 17 spots better. SOS. Georgetown 20, St John's 38.

17 spots in the RPI isn't a lot.

except that it is a lot for having the exact same record.

Look at this-
Georgetown at 18-12 end of year. projected RPI is 48.9 5-3 rest of season
St John's at 20-11 end of year. projected RPI is 53.9 7-2 rest of season

So St John's- despite going 1 1/2 games better than Georgetown rest of the way would still be 5 spots behind Georgetown. That's with both teams playing pretty much the exact same schedule rest of the way.

And last week- Georgetown played 2 top 10 teams- going 1-1, and saw their RPI go up by only 10 spots. It's not like you see wild swings by this point of the year.

Projections? Really? You and I have no idea what is going to happen with our own teams let alone the other 300+ teams in the country. How did the preseason projections go for either of our teams? Are you going to sit here and tell me that if SJU goes 8-1 down the stretch and wins 2 games in the BET the committee will keep them out? It's just about how well you are playing at the time of the brackets being made then it is on your overall performance. If two teams are on the bubble and one is red hot and one is middling who gets the slot? The hot team every single time.

[handdownmandown]

8-1 is one hell of a tall order.

[Jet915]

Ok, how about this....St. John's has very slim chances of getting an at-large bid.