New RPI Forecast: Tuesday, Jan 21

[HoosierPal]

Jones never suited up for Butler this year that I remember.

Correct. He was hurt on the August pre-season trip to Australia and redshirted the entire year. His absence from the team was known well before the season's first game.

[Bill Marsh]

Personally I find this a lot more useful than discussions of the polls, which have no basis in the real world and which will not be used by the selection committee. This is a performance based system and the committee will in fact look at RPI and other power ratings when they make their decisions, so knowing how individual teams and the conference as a whole stack up is very important.

And they also see how the team is before the selection compared to earlier in the season that resulted in their High RPI boost. Oh Georgetown, you beat a #10 ranked VCU earlier in the year...oh you dont have smith anymore and the past games it has shown with all these loses? Doesnt matter because that one win boosted your RPI enough to get you into the tournament even though you're a different team now. That's how selection works right?

No, it's not how selection works. Everyone knows that. So, why are you setting up a straw man?

[HoosierPal]

The NCAA selection committee can use a MAGIC EIGHT BALL if they want to in picking the field.

From the NCAA Manual, "Among the resources available to the committee are complete box scores, game summaries and notes, pertinent information submitted on a team's behalf by its conference, various computer rankings, injury reports, head-to-head results, chronological results, Division I results, non-conference results, home, away and neutral results, rankings, polls and the NABC regional advisory committee rankings."

Each committee member puts his/her At-Large selections into a pot and those schools with the majority of selections gets carried forward into round two, and so forth.

[TheHall]

The NCAA selection committee can use a MAGIC EIGHT BALL if they want to in picking the field.

From the NCAA Manual, "Among the resources available to the committee are complete box scores, game summaries and notes, pertinent information submitted on a team's behalf by its conference, various computer rankings, injury reports, head-to-head results, chronological results, Division I results, non-conference results, home, away and neutral results, rankings, polls and the NABC regional advisory committee rankings."

Each committee member puts his/her At-Large selections into a pot and those schools with the majority of selections gets carried forward into round two, and so forth.

And they answer to no one but themselves...

[ivet]

No, it's not how selection works. Everyone knows that. So, why are you setting up a straw man?

You need one of these.

[XUFan09]

Georgetown's RPI matters to other conference teams. They are projected as an RPI 51-100 team and will finish in that bracket if they finish between 17-13 and 14-16. At 18-12 they might break into the top 50; that's a 7-5 finish to the season. It affects how wins and losses against them count for conference foes.

If Butler finishes 3-8 or worse, they will be an RPI 100+ team and count as a bad loss for whoever they beat. If they finish 4-7, they are very borderline.

St. John's has to finish 7-6 or better to not finish outside the RPI 100. Ditto for Seton Hall.

Providence is projected to finish on a 7-6 run (20-11 overall), which would most likely put them just outside the top 50.

[Bill Marsh]

No, it's not how selection works. Everyone knows that. So, why are you setting up a straw man?

You need one of these.

No, I got the sarcasm. I was just putting on my best poker face.

But to be honest, I still don't get what your point was that we all don't already know.

[Bill Marsh]

Georgetown's RPI matters to other conference teams. They are projected as an RPI 51-100 team and will finish in that bracket if they finish between 17-13 and 14-16. At 18-12 they might break into the top 50; that's a 7-5 finish to the season. It affects how wins and losses against them count for conference foes.

If Butler finishes 3-8 or worse, they will be an RPI 100+ team and count as a bad loss for whoever they beat. If they finish 4-7, they are very borderline.

St. John's has to finish 7-6 or better to not finish outside the RPI 100. Ditto for Seton Hall.

Providence is projected to finish on a 7-6 run (20-11 overall), which would most likely put them just outside the top 50.

Good points, XU.

Let me add to what you just said the conference tournament factor. A team doesn't have to win it to drastically change their tournament position. Can a team pick up RPI position with wins off those top 100 opponents during the regular season and then move from the fringes of the bubble into position to get a bid by going to the conference finals even if they lose once they get there?

[BillikensWin]

The NCAA selection committee can use a MAGIC EIGHT BALL if they want to in picking the field.

From the NCAA Manual, "Among the resources available to the committee are complete box scores, game summaries and notes, pertinent information submitted on a team's behalf by its conference, various computer rankings, injury reports, head-to-head results, chronological results, Division I results, non-conference results, home, away and neutral results, rankings, polls and the NABC regional advisory committee rankings."

Each committee member puts his/her At-Large selections into a pot and those schools with the majority of selections gets carried forward into round two, and so forth.

I think there are years they've been smoking an 8-ball. Does that count?