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Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby TheHall » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:09 pm

This is an excerpt from Big East Tempo-Free Metrics: Week Two article from Big Apple Buckets:

Seton Hall’s next four opponents are St. John’s, DePaul, Butler, and a reeling (and short-handed) Georgetown — all winnable games — and while the Pirates currently have just one Big East win, a double overtime victory against Providence, their recent play suggests an potential surge. Similar to last year’s team, the Pirates are heavily dependent on their perimeter shooting — Kevin Willard’s squad ranks second in three-point attempts percentage during conference play, and SHU converts nearly 40% of their threes.

Some may argue SHU’s defense is too porous to actually challenge the Big East’s top three, and while losses to Creighton and Villanova were lopsided, the Pirates did hold Marquette to just 1.02 PPP, and that one-point loss was played without Gene Teague, a forward who might be able to take the court on Saturday against Georgetown. The combination of a healthy Teague and Gibbs’ savvy sophomore play could boost Seton Hall.


http://www.nycbuckets.com/2014/01/big-east-tempo-free-metrics-week-two/



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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby TheHall » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:35 pm

Jerry Carino ‏@NJHoopsHaven: At Seton Hall practice, where the whole team is finally back on the floor, including Gene Teague and newcomer Cheir Ajou.

Great news...GO PIRATES!!!
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby MackNova » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:18 pm

Depends what you mean by a run. People have said all season that DePaul and Seton Hall would bring up the rear in the conference. No longer convinced of that. Gun to my head, I still probably think they're the 9th and 10th-best teams, but the gap between them and any team in the conference other than Villanova and Creighton isn't all that wide.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Seton Hall went 3-1 in these 4 games. At the same time, 1-3 is also a distinct possibility.
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby fra » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:24 pm

Can they? Sure. Will they? Probably not.
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:47 am

It would be nice for the Hall to pick up some W's and get themselves in the RPI Top 100 along with the rest of the league. That would certainly help the conf profile. Not sure they have what it takes to finish over .500 in the league.
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby XUFan09 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:04 pm

MackNova wrote:Depends what you mean by a run. People have said all season that DePaul and Seton Hall would bring up the rear in the conference. No longer convinced of that. Gun to my head, I still probably think they're the 9th and 10th-best teams, but the gap between them and any team in the conference other than Villanova and Creighton isn't all that wide.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Seton Hall went 3-1 in these 4 games. At the same time, 1-3 is also a distinct possibility.


I'd argue for a big gap between them and Xavier and Georgetown. After that, though, it is pretty chaotic.

EDIT: That doesn't make me full confident in a win at DePaul's place coming up.
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby XUFan09 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:17 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:It would be nice for the Hall to pick up some W's and get themselves in the RPI Top 100 along with the rest of the league. That would certainly help the conf profile. Not sure they have what it takes to finish over .500 in the league.


Seton Hall needs to go 8-6 the rest of the way to break the top 100. Maybe 7-7, which projects them to 108 (basically, their non-conference opponents would have to win a decent number of games more than expected and some teams projected at the back of the top 100 would have to lose more than expected).
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby MackNova » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:46 am

XUFan09 wrote:
MackNova wrote:Depends what you mean by a run. People have said all season that DePaul and Seton Hall would bring up the rear in the conference. No longer convinced of that. Gun to my head, I still probably think they're the 9th and 10th-best teams, but the gap between them and any team in the conference other than Villanova and Creighton isn't all that wide.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Seton Hall went 3-1 in these 4 games. At the same time, 1-3 is also a distinct possibility.


I'd argue for a big gap between them and Xavier and Georgetown. After that, though, it is pretty chaotic.

EDIT: That doesn't make me full confident in a win at DePaul's place coming up.

Oh, I agree. To me, there's a tier with Villanova and Creighton (with Villanova slightly ahead). Xavier may be the second tier by itself. After that, I'm not sure if I wouldn't favor the home team in most matchups.
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby ChelseaFriar » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:22 pm

MackNova wrote:
XUFan09 wrote:
MackNova wrote:Depends what you mean by a run. People have said all season that DePaul and Seton Hall would bring up the rear in the conference. No longer convinced of that. Gun to my head, I still probably think they're the 9th and 10th-best teams, but the gap between them and any team in the conference other than Villanova and Creighton isn't all that wide.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Seton Hall went 3-1 in these 4 games. At the same time, 1-3 is also a distinct possibility.


I'd argue for a big gap between them and Xavier and Georgetown. After that, though, it is pretty chaotic.

EDIT: That doesn't make me full confident in a win at DePaul's place coming up.

Oh, I agree. To me, there's a tier with Villanova and Creighton (with Villanova slightly ahead). Xavier may be the second tier by itself. After that, I'm not sure if I wouldn't favor the home team in most matchups.


MackNova, I agree.
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Re: Can Seton Hall make a mid-season run?

Postby TheHall » Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:59 pm

Hall fans IW, Desi Rodriguez & Lincoln are about to play Yates (TX) in the Hoophall Classic right now. Live stream with Wes Mathews Sr. calling the game..

http://www.thebasketballchannel.net/hoophall-classic/
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