Bad Day for AAC

[stever20]

Sweet, let's get some nba games. Fill in those friday night gaps, put an occassional game on fs1 on regular weeknights and move providence/depaul to fs2. So what? Is that a bad thing? (And this is still huge speculation on your part, but it is not something I would feel uncomfortable about, I would welcome it)

And according to your last post, we will still remain their primary eastern time zone college basketball tenant (which we would do even if they got the big 10, which you now say fox won't get). (And again, I say go get the big 10, it would be nice to increase college basketball regular viewers on our station, I prefer it over the nba.) (And you're dreaming if you think ohio state, michigan state, indiana or michigan are east coast teams, they are in the midwest, they play their games according to midwest time zones, their fans who attend games are midwesterners, and I like that they have alumni in the northeast but that doesn't make them northeast teams. Now you're just being stupid)

Look, I don't even know where you are going here. You are clearly more doom and gloom than reality.

Fox sports is going to grow. That is a good thing. We are a big priority in their inventory. That is a good thing. Don't be afraid or intimidated by other kids showing up to the party, it is just going to make the event a better time. We just need our 10 two hour slots per week. Not asking much. And some of them can go on other channels. We are going to get that, and the future looks bright!!

On the flip side, the american has been shoved off to the side by espn. The exact opposite of how fox is treating their primary east coast college basketball product. That really sucks for them. They are relegated to internet games and espn news games (oh yeah, and a couple espn games that I better not forget). Their contract sucks (where this whole discussion started). If you think they have a good contract, you are not looking at things realistically.

The new content acquired by fox isn't going to "take our thunder". It is going to increase the station's viewership and help us. And yes, that means some of our games will lose some time slots, but we will still have all of our games televised, and still are going to be a huge priority in their broadcasting for weeknights at 7 pm in january, february and march, and noon on weekends.

It's not going to be just Friday night for the NBA. It would be Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday(that's what Turner has, which is what FS1 would grab). That would impact us big time. ESPN doesn't want that package because of all their college games.

Indiana was one of the biggest opponents of ESPN's Big Monday 9pm start. The entire conference eastern schools didn't like that start time.

And, I'm sorry but our games getting moved to FS2 or FSN is not good by any stretch. RSN's suck- not everyone gets all the games by any stretch. FS2 some folks don't get, and others don't get in HD.

[Friarfan2]

You just said we weren't going to get the big 10? So which is it? Are rutgers and penn state basketball going to take over for georgetown and nova or not?

Anyway, I want us to get more content. I would welcome either the big 10 or nba. Welcome them with open arms. I'm not delusional, I don't think that providence v brown should honestly be a major network's prime event.

But you aren't very realistic here either.

If fox gets the nba, great. It will increase overall viewership for our teams and our games. And I have no problem with taking a providence v butler game on fs2 while lebron is on fs1. That is a good thing. Keep it going fox!!

And I almost forgot, you are the same crazy poster who said we should never do a new year's eve marathon again because college football games might be on. You are clearly not dealing with reality and are in some deep pessimistic mode.

[stever20]

You just said we weren't going to get the big 10? So which is it? Are rutgers and penn state basketball going to take over for georgetown and nova or not?

Anyway, I want us to get more content. I would welcome either the big 10 or nba. Welcome them with open arms. I'm not delusional, I don't think that providence v brown should honestly be a major network's prime event.

But you aren't very realistic here either.

If fox gets the nba, great. It will increase overall viewership for our teams and our games. And I have no problem with taking a providence v butler game on fs2 while lebron is on fs1. That is a good thing. Keep it going fox!!

And I almost forgot, you are the same crazy poster who said we should never do a new year's eve marathon again because college football games might be on. You are clearly not dealing with reality and are in some deep pessimistic mode.

It wouldn't just be the Providence/Butler game on fs2. It would be Butler/Xavier on FS2. Instead of us getting what we have now maybe 5-6 slots a week on FS1(which is what we will have starting this week)- it'd be down to 3-4.

You are the one not dealing in reality. Why would fox want to absolutely bury their top property 1st game of the year and put it up against football semifinals- which is what you are saying. Of course fox won't want to do that. The football semifinals will get at least 11 or 12 ratings- and that may be very pessimistic quite frankly. That's just stupid to put our best day of the year just about up against that. Put it 1 day earlier and you have no competition.

[Jet915]

Best thing would probably be for Fox to get Thursday night football if it ever goes up for sale. It would just take one time slot but the massive viewership it would get on just that one day of the week will totally lift the ratings to ESPN2 levels. If not that, I think the Big Ten is the next best thing, Big East and Big Ten would share alot of common regions and probably help with viewership of both conferences. Plus, Big Ten has the biggest fansbases of all schools.

[Friarfan2]

Just so I uinderstand your doomsday scenario:

On fox sports 1, we will have lebron james v kevin durant. And then the announcer says, "and on our sister station, providence has a 34-20 lead over seton hall at the half..."; "and coming up after this game, we have georgetown visiting marquetee.." And that's a bad thing???

I can't stand the nba, I think it has hurt espn, but I don't view that as terrible by any means.

You seem like the type of guy who probably freaks out everytime his girl has a conversation with another guy. We can't have games on new years eve anymore because espn is showing football.

Some of our games belong on fs2. That is part of the plan. And it is a great plan. And it is a thousand times better than the american's heavy schedule of internet games and espn news games (and the occassional uconn espn game).

[stever20]

Best thing would probably be for Fox to get Thursday night football if it ever goes up for sale. It would just take one time slot but the massive viewership it would get on just that one day of the week will totally lift the ratings to ESPN2 levels. If not that, I think the Big Ten is the next best thing, Big East and Big Ten would share alot of common regions and probably help with viewership of both conferences. Plus, Big Ten has the biggest fansbases of all schools.

don't disagree. However, don't think ESPN would allow Big Ten to go to Fox- they'll bid enough to keep that from happening.

I think the by far most likely scenario is Fox getting NBA which doesn't help us out at all.

If nothing else comes open, Thursday night football wouldn't be available until 2021.

[Friarfan2]

So you just went on a rant about how fox sports was going to buy the big 10, and how that would destroy the big east because all those midwest teams are more important than the northeast teams (which is laughable). But now you don't even think it will happen?

Wtf???

Nba to fox sports would be fine. I would prefer the big 10, and I certainly want us to add more content, but both work. I want us to grab the wcc and mountain west too to the inventory too.

And keep the new year's eve marathon. I don't want that to be done on some random workday, make it a day many people have off. And when some of those bowl games become blowouts, casual viewers may flip channels over to our games. Our games will be there for people like me who don't give a crap about college football.

[stever20]

Just so I uinderstand your doomsday scenario:

On fox sports 1, we will have lebron james v kevin durant. And then the announcer says, "and on our sister station, providence has a 34-20 lead over seton hall at the half..."; "and coming up after this game, we have georgetown visiting marquetee.." And that's a bad thing???

I can't stand the nba, I think it has hurt espn, but I don't view that as terrible by any means.

You seem like the type of guy who probably freaks out everytime his girl has a conversation with another guy. We can't have games on new years eve anymore because espn is showing football.

Some of our games belong on fs2. That is part of the plan. And it is a great plan. And it is a thousand times better than the american's heavy schedule of internet games and espn news games (and the occassional uconn espn game).

NBA would have doubleheaders- 1st at 8 and then at 10:30.

You act like it's just a football game. The games that would be on New Years Eve would be 2 of the highest 5 rated games of the entire year in college football. It's not a generic game by any stretch. It's just bad business to put what is supposed to be our biggest day of the year up against that. We wouldn't win. If we do it 1 day earlier, we get great ratings and do very well. Even Chick fil a bowl- which wasn't a good matchup- got a 5.3 rating this year. We would be lucky to get half of that.

[stever20]

So you just went on a rant about how fox sports was going to buy the big 10, and how that would destroy the big east because all those midwest teams are more important than the northeast teams (which is laughable). But now you don't even think it will happen?

Wtf???

Nba to fox sports would be fine. I would prefer the big 10, and I certainly want us to add more content, but both work. I want us to grab the wcc and mountain west too to the inventory too.

And keep the new year's eve marathon. I don't want that to be done on some random workday, make it a day many people have off. And when some of those bowl games become blowouts, casual viewers may flip channels over to our games. Our games will be there for people like me who don't give a crap about college football.

The bowl games on new years eve in 8 of the next 12 years are the semi-finals. If it was like always this year- then it's fine. But it's going to be different starting next year. Very different.

[Friarfan2]

And you can't dictate your schedule according to other people's plans.

No matter what happens in college football, we are going to have our teams play their first conference games at some point. Might as well throw them all on the same day in a back to back to back to back format. If what you are saying is true, that no other sports in the world will be watched that day, then what is fox going to do? Run infomercials all day? And also you are claiming that we will never again have a fs1 game once the big 10 and nba come to town, so we should be grateful to have this marathon on fs2 and go on with it.

This is why I don't think you are realistic. You are the guy who won't have a birthday party for your kid because there might be something else going on that day.

We just have to do our thing. Fox has shown us serious commitment, no need to doubt that. We need to expect fox to up inventory, but we are still in great shape. Improved fox inventory will increase the network as a whole and help us all. We have to just run our games, and don't worry about whether espn is showing some college football games. I want to watch college basketball. I know I am the minority, but espn is going to show football whether or not I want to watch it, and I am glad that we are going to have our games on so I can watchj those. Meanwhile american conference fans are stuck watching internet streamed games.