Fox Sports 1 Update

[tsmithohio1234]

Need to correct you Marquette - UD attendance is not down this year, every home game has been +12000 (arena holds 13500)

Just don't understand how 9 Catholic institutions could embrace the hijacking of their image by a right wing propaganda machine. I am sorry you don't want to admit to it now. Sorry there is no turning back, you singed a 10 year deal.

[Hoopfan]

As an XU fan, I must say that the new FS1 game announcers and studio talent are third or fourth tier (below CBS national broadcasts, below ESPN, below B10 and Foxsports). The coverage is especially biased to the league trying to create a false narrative to give national status to the likes of SJU, Providence, Marquette etc with current RPI rankings in the 50's or worse. The knowledgeable viewer knows this line is a line of baloney. Fox is continuing to cross promote the Big East on Fox News, Fox Business and Fox and Friends The networks political viewpoint is in sever conflict with the Catholic experience. I doubt that the Nuns on the bus are pleased.

I am going to bite just for the hell of it.

Fox is not stupid, they know that the demo they are going after is not the one that watches Fox News. Sports is generally an 18-34 demographic and I'm sure they will treat the programming that way. Look at the FX channel as an example, could not be more different than the News channel with shows like Always Sunny and the League, I am 100% certain the Fox news demo wouldn't approve. I don't see any cross promotion with the news channel on FS1 or FX because they know they are chasing a different demo. I don't care if they promote it on the Fox news network because I don't watch that channel. If they do, who cares? I doubt the nuns on the bus care one way or another about the basketball teams and who they associate with. My guess is they have more important things to worry about.

The production is fine. Frankly it is downright good for a network in its first season promoting/covering college ball. It is at the very least up to the standards of other non-ESPN sports networks and pretty similar to ESPN in my opinion. Of course their coverage will be biased towards the league they have the rights to. That's business. ESPN does it, BTN does it, everybody does it.

We all know you aren't a Xavier fan. Your post history shows it, I believe you may have even stated it outright on a couple occasions. I am sorry you didn't get in, I actually like Dayton as a school/team, but you could at least handle it with the same class that SLU fans have. Every time a Dayton fan comes on here all they do is demean the conference, demean FS1, and talk crap about attendance (yours is also down this year, btw). That really makes us want you here more . Get over it, move on.

Please don't fall for this trolls trap. I highly doubt with a very generic name like this it is a ud fan. The same as other a10 boards there have been "ud" fans posting who were really X fans trying to turn A10 teams against UD

[Bluejay]

Just don't understand how 9 Catholic institutions could embrace the hijacking of their image by a right wing propaganda machine. I am sorry you don't want to admit to it now. Sorry there is no turning back, you singed a 10 year deal.

This is so dumb. The NFL has had multiple huge contracts with FOX for 25 years. The NFL's popularity has grown exponentially during that time.

It is good to know that Dayton isn't interested in joining the Big East because of the TV contract. Strike one potential candidate from the list of future expansion options.

[Wizard of Westroads]

Need to correct you Marquette - UD attendance is not down this year, every home game has been +12000 (arena holds 13500)

Just don't understand how 9 Catholic institutions could embrace the hijacking of their image by a right wing propaganda machine. I am sorry you don't want to admit to it now. Sorry there is no turning back, you singed a 10 year deal.

Are you really a Dayton fan? Or an X fan posing as a UD fan to make them look bad? If it's the former, you're giving your school a bad name. If it's the latter, it's working.

[Chalmers0]

Ratings for the NYE Marathon.

Xavier/St. Johns - 0.1
Providence/Seton Hall - 0.0
Georgetown/DePaul - 0.0
Villnova/Butler - 0.1
Creighton/Marquette - 0.1

The only other 2 games during the week (Dec 30th - Jan 5th) to muster up a .1 were USC/UCLA and Oregon/Colorado.

The highest viewed programming for the week was Monster Energy Supercross with a .2

Not exactly ideal.

http://sonofthebronx.blogspot.com/2014/ ... -1_10.html

[BEX]

Need to correct you Marquette - UD attendance is not down this year, every home game has been +12000 (arena holds 13500)

Just don't understand how 9 Catholic institutions could embrace the hijacking of their image by a right wing propaganda machine. I am sorry you don't want to admit to it now. Sorry there is no turning back, you singed a 10 year deal.

Hilarious. We get 234K a game. Dayton and the A-10 teams gets 350k a season. Math wasn't your best subject.

[Jet915]

Ratings for the NYE Marathon.

Xavier/St. Johns - 0.1
Providence/Seton Hall - 0.0
Georgetown/DePaul - 0.0
Villnova/Butler - 0.1
Creighton/Marquette - 0.1

The only other 2 games during the week (Dec 30th - Jan 5th) to muster up a .1 were USC/UCLA and Oregon/Colorado.

The highest viewed programming for the week was Monster Energy Supercross with a .2

Not exactly ideal.

http://sonofthebronx.blogspot.com/2014/ ... -1_10.html

I actually think those numbers are pretty good to be honest. If you look at what the Big East ratings have been prior, it's usually somwhere between 40K to 80K viewers (with obvious outliers like PC vs. Kentucky, SJ vs. Syracuse). Most of the time it attracts a 0.0 rating. So the fact that 3 of the games attracted 98K, 100K and 148K is pretty decent on New Year's eve. Football season is over so the only big attraction on FS1 is UFC right now and it still did better than NBC Sports Network this week.

[Chalmers0]

I actually think those numbers are pretty good to be honest. If you look at what the Big East ratings have been prior, it's usually somwhere between 40K to 80K viewers (with obvious outliers like PC vs. Kentucky, SJ vs. Syracuse). Most of the time it attracts a 0.0 rating. So the fact that 3 of the games attracted 98K, 100K and 148K is pretty decent on New Year's eve. Football season is over so the only big attraction on FS1 is UFC right now and it still did better than NBC Sports Network this week.

It's definitely an improvement over a majority of the non-conference games, which is definitely good but it would have been really concerning if there wasn't an improvement for these games. I'm interested to see where the conference games end up over the rest of the season (especially the ones on the main Fox network (Xavier/Marquette). I don't expect us to get up to the .5 - .7 range 9 (or higher) that a lot of ESPN/ESPN2 games get but I'm hoping at minimum we can consistently pull .2s and .1s like ESPNU does.

I'm far from throwing in the towel on FS1 but the numbers are a little hard to look at.

[redmen9194]

Very happy with the Fox Sports 1 coverage. The rating for our games would be exactly the same on any other network, and its what they have been in the past. Fox is doing exactly what we need them to do - promote and expose the league. Syracuse fans are complaining that their games are being broadcast on the ACC Network which is blacked out in most of their fan base and they have had a number of games on EPSN3. DePaul has more games that can be seen from coast to coast than Duke. Plus, member institutions are getting $4 mil a year. That is more than any basketball only member ever got in the old Big East ($1.5 million last season) and more than they would have gotten under the rejected ESPN deal from a few years ago ($2.5 million). It is also more than double what ESPN pays UConn for both football and hoops. And while ESPN juggles the conferences that are under the "family" umbrella, Fox can promote the Big East alone, and over several different channels during many of its highly rated sporting events and other popular shows. Last I have seen, there was no right wing agenda being pushed on any of the schools, so I think the nuns are probably OK with the coverage. I remember when the split was announced and the Core 7 were getting killed by ESPN, the football schools and just about everyone else. The arguments were:

1.) Never get a TV contract. Wrong
2.) May get only slightly more than the A-10 per school. Wrong
3.) Can't get the league up and running by Fall 2013. Wrong
4.) Will lose Madison Square Garden to either the ACC, Big Ten or CYO of Staten Island. Wrong
5.) Will not find enough quality teams to fill out a league. Wrong.
6.) Won't be able to recruit against the football schools. Wrong

Am I missing something?

[Jet915]

Very happy with the Fox Sports 1 coverage. The rating for our games would be exactly the same on any other network, and its what they have been in the past. Fox is doing exactly what we need them to do - promote and expose the league. Syracuse fans are complaining that their games are being broadcast on the ACC Network which is blacked out in most of their fan base and they have had a number of games on EPSN3. DePaul has more games that can be seen from coast to coast than Duke. Plus, member institutions are getting $4 mil a year. That is more than any basketball only member ever got in the old Big East ($1.5 million last season) and more than they would have gotten under the rejected ESPN deal from a few years ago ($2.5 million). It is also more than double what ESPN pays UConn for both football and hoops. And while ESPN juggles the conferences that are under the "family" umbrella, Fox can promote the Big East alone, and over several different channels during many of its highly rated sporting events and other popular shows. Last I have seen, there was no right wing agenda being pushed on any of the schools, so I think the nuns are probably OK with the coverage. I remember when the split was announced and the Core 7 were getting killed by ESPN, the football schools and just about everyone else. The arguments were:

1.) Never get a TV contract. Wrong
2.) May get only slightly more than the A-10 per school. Wrong
3.) Can't get the league up and running by Fall 2013. Wrong
4.) Will lose Madison Square Garden to either the ACC, Big Ten or CYO of Staten Island. Wrong
5.) Will not find enough quality teams to fill out a league. Wrong.
6.) Won't be able to recruit against the football schools. Wrong

Am I missing something?

Nice post.