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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby Jet915 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:33 pm

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Jet915 wrote:As far as teams getting ranked, the best way would be for Butler to beat Villanova, that should get them pretty close to ranked I would think and for Providence to win at UMASS. In order to Creighton to get in, they'll have to atleast beat Marquette and hope teams ahead of them lose.


Creighton is the only Big East team in the "Others Receiving Votes" list. Long way to go for my Dawgs or Providence to get in.


Not really, Butler has no bad losses, if they beat Villanova who is a top 10 team, they will open alot of eyes and get alot of votes immediately. Providence has a longer ways to go but if they win @UMASS, they will definitely be getting votes.
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Postby adoraz11 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:26 pm

Jet915 wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
Jet915 wrote:As far as teams getting ranked, the best way would be for Butler to beat Villanova, that should get them pretty close to ranked I would think and for Providence to win at UMASS. In order to Creighton to get in, they'll have to atleast beat Marquette and hope teams ahead of them lose.


Creighton is the only Big East team in the "Others Receiving Votes" list. Long way to go for my Dawgs or Providence to get in.


Not really, Butler has no bad losses, if they beat Villanova who is a top 10 team, they will open alot of eyes and get alot of votes immediately. Providence has a longer ways to go but if they win @UMASS, they will definitely be getting votes.


Yep true. If Butler beats Villanova I think they'll be ranked. Especially if Nova bests Syracuse
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:22 pm

Sactowndog = Wichita State fan I'm thinking.
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby SJUREDMEN85 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:15 am

SJU lost to two top4 teams (Wisc, was down 18 before making it a 4pnt game, then the back tp back threes by them that sealed it.
Then Syracuse, up 2pnts with the ball but choked that away.), and that damn PSU game which I wish we could have back.

Since the 2nd half of the GT game we have been playing real good ball and I think we`ll keep improving.

I`m not gonna worry about the ooc games. Just looking ahead.


Hey Villanovs, continue to own those POS from upstate ny. I`ll be watching.
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby milksteak » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:26 am

SJUREDMEN85 wrote:SJU lost to two top4 teams (Wisc, was down 18 before making it a 4pnt game, then the back tp back threes by them that sealed it.
Then Syracuse, up 2pnts with the ball but choked that away.), and that damn PSU game which I wish we could have back.

Since the 2nd half of the GT game we have been playing real good ball and I think we`ll keep improving.

I`m not gonna worry about the ooc games. Just looking ahead.


Hey Villanovs, continue to own those POS from upstate ny. I`ll be watching.


Butler is significantly closer to being ranked than SJU. That Penn State leaves a really sour taste in the voters' mouths.
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:27 am

FWIW, here's how I'd rank them at this point:

1. Villanova
2. Creighton
3. Georgetown
4. Marquette
5. Xavier
6. St. John's
7. Butler
8. Providence
9. Seton Hall
10. DePaul
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby Jet915 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:44 pm

Bill Marsh wrote:FWIW, here's how I'd rank them at this point:

1. Villanova
2. Creighton
3. Georgetown
4. Marquette
5. Xavier
6. St. John's
7. Butler
8. Providence
9. Seton Hall
10. DePaul


You've got Marquette WAY too high and Butler/Providence way too low.
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby Sactowndog » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:49 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:Sactowndog = Wichita State fan I'm thinking.


Nope, went to Pomona College and follow Butler in basketball. I just think academic snobbery in undergraduate athletic conferences is a bad idea. It has hurt the Big 10 and it will hurt the Big East. Last I checked at one point Harvard Yale was a big game.
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby Edrick » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:39 pm

ESPN's BPI loves (ironically) the Big East, with the notable exception of Georgetown as compared to similar models.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bpi
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Re: ranking the big east as of 12-21

Postby Bill Marsh » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:45 pm

Jet915 wrote:
Bill Marsh wrote:FWIW, here's how I'd rank them at this point:

1. Villanova
2. Creighton
3. Georgetown
4. Marquette
5. Xavier
6. St. John's
7. Butler
8. Providence
9. Seton Hall
10. DePaul


You've got Marquette WAY too high and Butler/Providence way too low.


#4 - #7 are all very close and are pretty much interchangeable. So, I have no problem if you want to drop Marquette or boost Butler. I'm a Providence fan and I would love to rank them higher, which I did in the preseason. But they haven't played anyone yet except for Kentucky and Maryland and they lost to both of them. Add to that the fact that they have lost one of their projected starters and their 2 top recruits, which has to be factored in as well, and they don't project very high at this point. If they beat UMass this weekend, things will change.
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