ranking the big east as of 12-21

[Edrick]

The Big East is the 3rd-rated conference in the country. It would take something strange but 2nd is in reach. After OOC schedules are complete, there will lot be much change in the inter-conference ranking. http://t.co/Zhx2F8sQQw

[Jet915]

The Big East is the 3rd-rated conference in the country. It would take something strange but 2nd is in reach. After OOC schedules are complete, there will lot be much change in the inter-conference ranking. http://t.co/Zhx2F8sQQw

I think we will be going between 3 and 4 all year because we are very close to the PAC-12. Creighton's win over Cal put the Big East over the Pac-12 only slightly. Either way, 3rd or 4th is not bad for the Big East. I think the biggest surprise is the "almighty" ACC which many thought would be the best conference. If you look at their resumes, you only see 5 bids out of 14 teams.

[stever20]

The Big East is the 3rd-rated conference in the country. It would take something strange but 2nd is in reach. After OOC schedules are complete, there will lot be much change in the inter-conference ranking. http://t.co/Zhx2F8sQQw

I think we will be going between 3 and 4 all year because we are very close to the PAC-12. Creighton's win over Cal put the Big East over the Pac-12 only slightly. Either way, 3rd or 4th is not bad for the Big East. I think the biggest surprise is the "almighty" ACC which many thought would be the best conference. If you look at their resumes, you only see 5 bids out of 14 teams.

5? 6 teams in the Ken Pom top 26- Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, UNC, UVA, and FSU. Only UVA outside top 50 RPI right now. And their schedule has them projected 11-7 in conference play so they should be safely in. That's the thing with a 15 team conference- you will always get 1-2 bids you shouldn't get because of schedules. 9 teams right now with 3 or fewer losses.

[stever20]

The Big East is the 3rd-rated conference in the country. It would take something strange but 2nd is in reach. After OOC schedules are complete, there will lot be much change in the inter-conference ranking. http://t.co/Zhx2F8sQQw

I think we will be going between 3 and 4 all year because we are very close to the PAC-12. Creighton's win over Cal put the Big East over the Pac-12 only slightly. Either way, 3rd or 4th is not bad for the Big East. I think the biggest surprise is the "almighty" ACC which many thought would be the best conference. If you look at their resumes, you only see 5 bids out of 14 teams.

5? 6 teams in the Ken Pom top 26- Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, UNC, UVA, and FSU. Only UVA outside top 50 RPI right now. And their schedule has them projected 11-7 in conference play so they should be safely in. That's the thing with a 15 team conference- you will always get 1-2 bids you shouldn't get because of schedules. 9 teams right now with 3 or fewer losses.

Cincy was that team last year- probably had no business getting in, but they did.

[Jet915]

The Big East is the 3rd-rated conference in the country. It would take something strange but 2nd is in reach. After OOC schedules are complete, there will lot be much change in the inter-conference ranking. http://t.co/Zhx2F8sQQw

I think we will be going between 3 and 4 all year because we are very close to the PAC-12. Creighton's win over Cal put the Big East over the Pac-12 only slightly. Either way, 3rd or 4th is not bad for the Big East. I think the biggest surprise is the "almighty" ACC which many thought would be the best conference. If you look at their resumes, you only see 5 bids out of 14 teams.

5? 6 teams in the Ken Pom top 26- Syracuse, Pitt, Duke, UNC, UVA, and FSU. Only UVA outside top 50 RPI right now. And their schedule has them projected 11-7 in conference play so they should be safely in. That's the thing with a 15 team conference- you will always get 1-2 bids you shouldn't get because of schedules. 9 teams right now with 3 or fewer losses.

It's funny how when you project bids for leagues NOT CALLED THE BIG EAST, they seem very favorable. However, when it comes to a Big East team, it's doomsday, no shot in hell they would get in scenario. UVA??? You of all people should have looked at their resume. Their best win is SMU.................SMU whose RPI right now is 59 and probably wont get much better in a shitty AAC, not to mention UVA also lost to Green Bay. If a Big East team had this resume, you'd give them no shot in hell of making the tourney.

[stever20]

11 conference wins plus the 9 OOC wins and they are at 20 wins- rpi about 45.. That's a pretty magic number for a committee. Always has been for the major conferences. Committee has shown last few years they'd take a 21-10 team over a 18-14 team with a tougher schedule.

SMU's projected RPI right now is 58. If they got 1 more win than projected, they're a top 50 RPI team. Numbers I did earlier this week were all pretty much predicated on # to get to 20.

[billyjack]

11 conference wins plus the 9 OOC wins and they are at 20 wins- rpi about 45.. That's a pretty magic number for a committee. Always has been for the major conferences. Committee has shown last few years they'd take a 21-10 team over a 18-14 team with a tougher schedule.

SMU's projected RPI right now is 58. If they got 1 more win than projected, they're a top 50 RPI team. Numbers I did earlier this week were all pretty much predicated on # to get to 20.

Brother Stever,
Virginia, LAST YEAR, had 21 regular season wins and an 11-7 record in the ACC, and didn't make the NCAAs.
This year, they already have 3 losses, including to UW-Green Bay.

The ACC is in a tough spot because teams like Boston College (with PC loss), Georgia Tech (with St John's loss) and Virginia Tech (with Seton Hall loss) aren't good, their RPI is awful, but they ARE good enough to beat bubble teams like Florida State and Maryland and definitely Virginia.

Actually, Virginia has had ONE true road game, their loss at Green Bay.

[Friarfan2]

I think some of the newer schools' fans aren't used to what it takes to get a bid from a power conference. You really can't be screwing up out of conference against lesser teams. A couple losses is okay, but the way the big east failed to distinguish itself this ooc portion will hurt us in march. We needed to be better, we weren't, we will need things to go our way to land 4 bids.

Like I said earlier,
I do not think a 10 win conference record without any wins in nyc will land a team a bid (except for nova, who has big ooc wins).
11 wins will be the number unless a team makes a run in new york.

[Friarfan2]

Last year, virginia has an 11-7 acc record, won 21 games, and missed the dance.

And people think we are going to be sending 10 win teams to the tournament?

Wrong

10 wins only gets a team dancing if they make a big east tourney run. 11 could still have them missing.

[HoosierPal]

I like drinking the Big East Kool-Aid as much as the next one, but we need to take a step backwards. Looking at this weeks polls (AP and Coaches Polls are similar), we are right there....with the Missouri Valley, West Coast, A10 and the Mountain West. The Big 10 and Big 12 both have four teams in the top 25, the SEC, the Pac 12 and AAC have 3. We have one. Hard to put the Big East ahead of conferences with three or four Top 25 teams. As someone said earlier, the media and the fans look a the polls to see where the tough teams are. Right now they only see Villanova among the elite.