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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby Hall2012 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:26 am

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HoosierPal wrote:Creighton, Xavier, and Butler have all shown extremely strong attendance this year to date. No one was at the Seton Hall game today. Why don't our Eastern brotheren follow their teams like us newbies do?


I'll offer my theory on this by comparing Creighton to Seton Hall. I imagine comparisons with Butler and Xavier would play out in a similar fashion.

As I'm sure everyone is aware, Seton Hall did not have nearly the expectations Creighton did this year, and the team hasn't even lived up to those low expectations(although, yes, they have been decimated by injuries).

Next up, the schedule. SHU's non-conference schedule is garbage. The highest profile team to visit the Rock in non-conference play may well have been LIU-Brooklyn. And the Big East competition is being viewed as a step down from last year as well with no more Louisville, UConn, Syracuse, etc. Creighton, on the other hand, is seeing a massive improvement in the quality of its competition compared to last year. They're also in that honeymoon period of just joining a major conference, which is sure to get the fan base extra excited.

And despite all of that, based on what I've read on here, it seems that Seton Hall's ticket prices seem to be running well over double that of Creighton.


The problem with your theory is that Creighton had Top 10 attendance last year, with an MVC schedule and a horrible home noncon.


I'm not disputing that. The main point of my theory is they're putting a weaker product on the court this year with astronomically higher ticket prices. There are certainly other factors too, like that Creighton basketball is the only show in town while SHU is competing with the Knicks, Nets, Rangers, Islanders, Devils, and on Sundays the Jets and Giants. Not to mention other high major colleges and Philly isn't far either.
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Postby Jet915 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:24 am

I think it mostly comes down to on court performance and expectations. Seton Hall has not been good for a long time. Winning breeds excitement. I hope next year, with Whitehead coming, fans will show up. As far as only show in town, I'd probably agree with that somewhat. Thing is, there is probably more to do in Jersey but there are also a TON more people there as well so I don't totally buy that argument completely.
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby Edrick » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:40 am

It's mostly about entertainment replacement possibilities (not to mention cultural and ethnic diversity far outside of CBB's target demographic). What is going on the court is far less important than simply nothin else going on. Seton Hall would have to be having a nationally relevant season, say Top 10, to move the needle in the NY Metro. Creighton has a captive audience, in just about every sense of the word, in their corner of nowheresville
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby TrueBlueJay » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:21 am

Edrick wrote:It's mostly about entertainment replacement possibilities (not to mention cultural and ethnic diversity far outside of CBB's target demographic). What is going on the court is far less important than simply nothin else going on. Seton Hall would have to be having a nationally relevant season, say Top 10, to move the needle in the NY Metro. Creighton has a captive audience, in just about every sense of the word, in their corner of nowheresville


Captive audience in nowhereseville? Ha! I'll have you know as soon as I'm done chopping wood for my furnace, cleaning the outhouse for our holiday guests and doing the afternoon feeding of my hogs 'n chickens I am diving my tractor down to the local chappel as we are havin' a pre-Christmas weenie roast followed by putting up the pole and having our ritual Festivus Feats of Strength contest.
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby section202jay » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:38 am

TrueBlueJay wrote:
Edrick wrote:It's mostly about entertainment replacement possibilities (not to mention cultural and ethnic diversity far outside of CBB's target demographic). What is going on the court is far less important than simply nothin else going on. Seton Hall would have to be having a nationally relevant season, say Top 10, to move the needle in the NY Metro. Creighton has a captive audience, in just about every sense of the word, in their corner of nowheresville


Captive audience in nowhereseville? Ha! I'll have you know as soon as I'm done chopping wood for my furnace, cleaning the outhouse for our holiday guests and doing the afternoon feeding of my hogs 'n chickens I am diving my tractor down to the local chappel as we are havin' a pre-Christmas weenie roast followed by putting up the pole and having our ritual Festivus Feats of Strength contest.


TBJ - Can you give us a lift on your tractor? Our horse got sick last night and we have no way of moving our buggy into town.
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby Jays26 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:46 am

section202jay wrote:
TrueBlueJay wrote:
Edrick wrote:It's mostly about entertainment replacement possibilities (not to mention cultural and ethnic diversity far outside of CBB's target demographic). What is going on the court is far less important than simply nothin else going on. Seton Hall would have to be having a nationally relevant season, say Top 10, to move the needle in the NY Metro. Creighton has a captive audience, in just about every sense of the word, in their corner of nowheresville


Captive audience in nowhereseville? Ha! I'll have you know as soon as I'm done chopping wood for my furnace, cleaning the outhouse for our holiday guests and doing the afternoon feeding of my hogs 'n chickens I am diving my tractor down to the local chappel as we are havin' a pre-Christmas weenie roast followed by putting up the pole and having our ritual Festivus Feats of Strength contest.


TBJ - Can you give us a lift on your tractor? Our horse got sick last night and we have no way of moving our buggy into town.


I need a ride also....OUR horse got stuck also but what really sucks is I had to shoot it. :(
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby HoosierPal » Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:54 am

Hall2012 wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:Creighton, Xavier, and Butler have all shown extremely strong attendance this year to date. No one was at the Seton Hall game today. Why don't our Eastern brotheren follow their teams like us newbies do?


I'll offer my theory on this by comparing Creighton to Seton Hall. I imagine comparisons with Butler and Xavier would play out in a similar fashion.

As I'm sure everyone is aware, Seton Hall did not have nearly the expectations Creighton did this year, and the team hasn't even lived up to those low expectations(although, yes, they have been decimated by injuries).

Next up, the schedule. SHU's non-conference schedule is garbage. The highest profile team to visit the Rock in non-conference play may well have been LIU-Brooklyn. And the Big East competition is being viewed as a step down from last year as well with no more Louisville, UConn, Syracuse, etc. Creighton, on the other hand, is seeing a massive improvement in the quality of its competition compared to last year. They're also in that honeymoon period of just joining a major conference, which is sure to get the fan base extra excited.

And despite all of that, based on what I've read on here, it seems that Seton Hall's ticket prices seem to be running well over double that of Creighton.


Indy has the Pacers, selling out most dates, the Colts selling out, and just an hour south IU selling out. If you take the road trip to Indy, I think you will be surprised at the number of opportunities you have for your winter time entertainment dollar. We also have the same crappy weather you have on the east coast, and the same holiday schedules, i.e., no students on campus. We have had strong attendance since our two Final Four runs. So maybe it is a four year honeymoon.
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby billyjack » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:09 am

After the Nets left, Seton Hall should've gotten a solid attendance boost. I figured that locals would need their basketball fix.
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby Meet me at the rim » Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:45 am

TBJ - Can you give us a lift on your tractor? Our horse got sick last night and we have no way of moving our buggy into town.[/quote]

I need a ride also....OUR horse got stuck also but what really sucks is I had to shoot it. :([/quote]

You shot OUR Horse!!!!!!! That's the only one in the county!
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Re: Creighton tickets sold out!

Postby Hall2012 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 12:05 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:Creighton, Xavier, and Butler have all shown extremely strong attendance this year to date. No one was at the Seton Hall game today. Why don't our Eastern brotheren follow their teams like us newbies do?


I'll offer my theory on this by comparing Creighton to Seton Hall. I imagine comparisons with Butler and Xavier would play out in a similar fashion.

As I'm sure everyone is aware, Seton Hall did not have nearly the expectations Creighton did this year, and the team hasn't even lived up to those low expectations(although, yes, they have been decimated by injuries).

Next up, the schedule. SHU's non-conference schedule is garbage. The highest profile team to visit the Rock in non-conference play may well have been LIU-Brooklyn. And the Big East competition is being viewed as a step down from last year as well with no more Louisville, UConn, Syracuse, etc. Creighton, on the other hand, is seeing a massive improvement in the quality of its competition compared to last year. They're also in that honeymoon period of just joining a major conference, which is sure to get the fan base extra excited.

And despite all of that, based on what I've read on here, it seems that Seton Hall's ticket prices seem to be running well over double that of Creighton.


Indy has the Pacers, selling out most dates, the Colts selling out, and just an hour south IU selling out. If you take the road trip to Indy, I think you will be surprised at the number of opportunities you have for your winter time entertainment dollar. We also have the same crappy weather you have on the east coast, and the same holiday schedules, i.e., no students on campus. We have had strong attendance since our two Final Four runs. So maybe it is a four year honeymoon.


Where did I say Butler doesn't have competition? Or anything about weather or holidays hurting attendance? You explained Butler's strong attendance there yourself- two Final Four runs. Winning solves everything.
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