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[TheHall]

Last 10 games is no longer a category for the Selection Committee, so their last 10 regular season games, which weren't good overall, mattered no more than their first 10, which were excellent. No one is denying that UConn didn't look good coming into the tourney, but the Selection Committee isn't concerned with how a team "looks" late in the season. They are concerned with what a team has done that season on a whole, and UConn had easily done enough to make the tournament

What? The problem that year wasn't Uconn's last ten (obviously) it was the fact that they only finished 9th during conference play. Since when is finishing 9th considered doing plenty? That was a HUGE hurdle to climb regardless of how good they proved they were in the OOC.

[stever20]

Last 10 games is no longer a category for the Selection Committee, so their last 10 regular season games, which weren't good overall, mattered no more than their first 10, which were excellent. No one is denying that UConn didn't look good coming into the tourney, but the Selection Committee isn't concerned with how a team "looks" late in the season. They are concerned with what a team has done that season on a whole, and UConn had easily done enough to make the tournament

The problem that year wasn't Uconn's last ten (obviously) it was the fact that they only finished 9th during conference play. That was a HUGE hurdle to climb regardless of how good they proved they were in the OOC.

I don't think the committee looks at conference rank all that seriously. I mean, 2 years ago, the committee didn't take conference champ Washington, but did take 2nd place California. The only thing conference play does is the 16-18 games you play in conference then your tourney.

[Bill Marsh]

Last 10 games is no longer a category for the Selection Committee, so their last 10 regular season games, which weren't good overall, mattered no more than their first 10, which were excellent. No one is denying that UConn didn't look good coming into the tourney, but the Selection Committee isn't concerned with how a team "looks" late in the season. They are concerned with what a team has done that season on a whole, and UConn had easily done enough to make the tournament

I disagree. It doesn't matter if it's a "category". The committee wants teams that are playing well going into the tournament, which is what "last ten" was about. They've freed themselves from having to defend challenges based on the precise "last ten games" record, but they're still looking at a team's momentum going into the tournament.

There is no way that UConn was making the tournament. Their team had been decimated by injuries and their record down the stretch reflected that. Not only were they missing their center and his backup, their 3 and their 6th man, but Napier was playing on one leg in their last game and was hobbling around on campus in a boot that Monday. He was not available for the tournament either. The fact is that by season' send, UConn was a bubble team and injuries push teams off the bubble in the wrong direction.

[stever20]

Last 10 games is no longer a category for the Selection Committee, so their last 10 regular season games, which weren't good overall, mattered no more than their first 10, which were excellent. No one is denying that UConn didn't look good coming into the tourney, but the Selection Committee isn't concerned with how a team "looks" late in the season. They are concerned with what a team has done that season on a whole, and UConn had easily done enough to make the tournament

I disagree. It doesn't matter if it's a "category". The committee wants teams that are playing well going into the tournament, which is what "last ten" was about. They've freed themselves from having to defend challenges based on the precise "last ten games" record, but they're still looking at a team's momentum going into the tournament.

There is no way that UConn was making the tournament. Their team had been decimated by injuries and their record down the stretch reflected that. Not only were they missing their center and his backup, their 3 and their 6th man, but Napier was playing on one leg in their last game and was hobbling around on campus in a boot that Monday. He was not available for the tournament either. The fact is that by season' send, UConn was a bubble team and injuries push teams off the bubble in the wrong direction.

Are you talking last year, or 3 years ago? We've been talking 3 years ago.....

Nova 3 years ago showed they don't look at last 10 games at all.....

[TheHall]

True but that was far from typical and more a reflection of how woeful the PAC had been over the last few years.

[TheHall]

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I don't think the committee looks at conference rank all that seriously. I mean, 2 years ago, the committee didn't take conference champ Washington, but did take 2nd place California. The only thing conference play does is the 16-18 games you play in conference then your tourney.

True but that was far from typical and more a reflection of how woeful the PAC had been over the last few years.

[stever20]

I know last year Iowa finished ahead of 2 teams in the Big Ten, yet didn't go while those other 2 did. Each team is individual. I'd say especially in the old Big East(or any huge conference)- where luck in schedule has as much to do on finish as anything else.

[TheHall]

I know last year Iowa finished ahead of 2 teams in the Big Ten, yet didn't go while those other 2 did. Each team is individual. I'd say especially in the old Big East(or any huge conference)- where luck in schedule has as much to do on finish as anything else.

But that shouldn't apply to the BE as much now we have a true round robin.

[stever20]

I know last year Iowa finished ahead of 2 teams in the Big Ten, yet didn't go while those other 2 did. Each team is individual. I'd say especially in the old Big East(or any huge conference)- where luck in schedule has as much to do on finish as anything else.

But that shouldn't apply to the BE as much now we have a true round robin.

going back to what we were originally talking about- Nova if they are just competent in conference will be in no matter what. They've done enough OOC for that to be the case(similar to UConn a few years ago)....

[TheHall]

I know last year Iowa finished ahead of 2 teams in the Big Ten, yet didn't go while those other 2 did. Each team is individual. I'd say especially in the old Big East(or any huge conference)- where luck in schedule has as much to do on finish as anything else.

But that shouldn't apply to the BE as much now we have a true round robin.

going back to what we were originally talking about- Nova if they are just competent in conference will be in no matter what. They've done enough OOC for that to be the case(similar to UConn a few years ago)....

No matter what the OOC says, it's still too early to assume in-conference records, including Nova's and forget the Uconn analogy. That was an anomaly where the 9th place team makes the NCAAT (not counting the auto-bid). Uconn needed to beat ranked teams at the end, Nova likely won't have those quality wins waiting for them in the BET if the falter in-confernce.