Bulldog_Muskie wrote:adoraz11 wrote:
Penn state is not a bad loss. It can eventually be, but that's true for basically any loss.
I'd be pretty surprised if that didn't turn out to be a bad loss.
GumbyDamnit! wrote:adoraz11 wrote:And remember, Nova went from average BE team to leader of the conference in less than 24 hours. SJU is one of the few teams that still a chance to do something similar before conference play.
Penn state is not a bad loss. It can eventually be, but that's true for basically any loss.
Nova fans would beg to differ from this line of thinking. After watching us grow last year from a young, raw team who lost to Columbia on our home court to one that knocked off 3 top 5 teams (including the eventual NC and a 2nd FF team), we all expected that we would be one of the top teams in the BE this year. The wins didn't take us from an average team to the top of the league, it just validated what we already knew about this team. Now if a Xavier or a SJU or a Prov were to knock off a Top 5 and another Top 25 team in the same week then I think it would be an "average" BE team becoming a "leader.".
Westbrook36 wrote:So the Nova win over the Jayhawks isn't looking as great as it once was, but it's still Kansas and they still have 2 or 3 lottery picks on that team. Also, when was the last time a win over Kansas wasn't considered good in March? Nova still has the Iowa win(plus Atlantis title) and that 30 pt. curb stomping of St. Joe's on Hawk Hill. You know, the place Creighton barely escaped with a win.
Btw I have lived like 45 minutes from State College for over 20 years and seen many a Penn St. hoop team(most of them really crappy). This is one of the top 3 or so PSU teams of the last 20 years, they'll be a borderline bubble team this year. Probably won't make the NCAA, but it would not shock me to see this team win 8-10 games in the B1G. Frazier & Newbill are a good backcourt and a threat to steal almost any game on their schedule.
stever20 wrote:I think your win over Kansas should be ok, unless they turn into Kentucky last year- which would just turn the win into a top 50 win instead of a top 5 win. Just something doesn't feel right with them.
GumbyDamnit! wrote:stever20 wrote:I think your win over Kansas should be ok, unless they turn into Kentucky last year- which would just turn the win into a top 50 win instead of a top 5 win. Just something doesn't feel right with them.
That may be true but it's hard to call last night's loss to a very talented Florida team, on their home court, a questionable one. You've got to give it up to KU for their OOC slate: @ Colo, @Florida, SD State, Gtwn, Nova, Duke-N (may be missing one). Not sure if there are many teams in the country that would survive that unscathed. A miracle buzzer beater away at a pretty good Colo team and a loss at a team that may end up Top10 themselves is not terrible. I don't think it takes any luster off the Nova win yet. I expect KU to be up there by season's end.
Bluejay wrote:GumbyDamnit! wrote:stever20 wrote:I think your win over Kansas should be ok, unless they turn into Kentucky last year- which would just turn the win into a top 50 win instead of a top 5 win. Just something doesn't feel right with them.
That may be true but it's hard to call last night's loss to a very talented Florida team, on their home court, a questionable one. You've got to give it up to KU for their OOC slate: @ Colo, @Florida, SD State, Gtwn, Nova, Duke-N (may be missing one). Not sure if there are many teams in the country that would survive that unscathed. A miracle buzzer beater away at a pretty good Colo team and a loss at a team that may end up Top10 themselves is not terrible. I don't think it takes any luster off the Nova win yet. I expect KU to be up there by season's end.
Certainly have to credit KU for putting together such a quality noncon schedule. That being said, KU seems like they were pretty overrated. I agree with the poster above who said that, right now, there seems to be something not quite right about this KU team. They may get it figured out by the end of the season, or maybe everyone underestimated how much talent they lost from last year's team.
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