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RPI 12/9

Postby stever20 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:04 pm

Villanova #7
St John's #47
Butler #51
Creighton #57
Georgetown #60
DePaul #78
Marquette #85
Providence #88
Xavier #110
Seton Hall #123

as conference #3 in RPI. MWC and A10 both ahead of the SEC and AAC.

Kind of good that St John's and Butler are so high so far in the RPI. Creighton and Georgetown if they can win games will be fine. Marquette is the concern right now. That game week from Saturday with New Mexico is probably as close to a must win as we've had OOC recently. A 5th OOC loss really means they have to go 11-7 to have any shot at making the tourney. 10-8 with 5 OOC losses and they're 18-13 entering the tourney.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby Lavinwood » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:19 pm

Wow didn't realize we climbed that high. Fordham is a solid team that will surprise some better squads. We just had a perfect game. If we beat Cuse and win out for our OOC games I think we are def ranked. Our RPI would be great if that happens. Beating Cuse gives us a cushion albeit a small one. We need to beat Cuse so we don't have to do crazy good in conference or go deep in the Big East tourney.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby stever20 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:42 pm

Lavinwood wrote:Wow didn't realize we climbed that high. Fordham is a solid team that will surprise some better squads. We just had a perfect game. If we beat Cuse and win out for our OOC games I think we are def ranked. Our RPI would be great if that happens. Beating Cuse gives us a cushion albeit a small one. We need to beat Cuse so we don't have to do crazy good in conference or go deep in the Big East tourney.

I think fact only 2 losses helps some...

I think if you beat Cuse- 10 BE wins and you are in. If you lose, would need 11 to feel safe(though 10 would be in discussion for sure at 20-11 plus BET).
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby xu1990 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:47 pm

Xavier will get an RPI boost in the next couple weeks playing Cincinnati (7-1), Wake (8-2) and Alabama (4-4). Hopefully all these games against decent schools from decent conferences (Iowa and Tenn x2, even USC) will continue to help the RPI as season continues.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby stever20 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:53 pm

xu1990 wrote:Xavier will get an RPI boost in the next couple weeks playing Cincinnati (7-1), Wake (8-2) and Alabama (4-4). Hopefully all these games against decent schools from decent conferences (Iowa and Tenn x2, even USC) will continue to help the RPI as season continues.

the key for those games is to actually win them! I'd even include 6-3 Evansville in that group quite frankly.

The bad thing about Alabama- it's a risky game- but if you beat them, they quite possibly are 6-7 entering conference play. Still have Wichita St and @ UCLA on the schedule.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby HoosierPal » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:34 pm

stever20 wrote:Villanova #7
St John's #47
Butler #51
Creighton #57
Georgetown #60
DePaul #78
Marquette #85
Providence #88
Xavier #110
Seton Hall #123



A billion games to go before this counts, but keep in mind that the unofficial 'safe' cutoff on RPI is 40. If you are lower than 40, great chance you get an at-large bid (unless you are SW Missouri State that got outed at an RPI of 21). If you are higher than 40, then you need some breaks to go your way. So we better get some intense upward movement in the next two months if we want three or four bids.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby stever20 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:44 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
stever20 wrote:Villanova #7
St John's #47
Butler #51
Creighton #57
Georgetown #60
DePaul #78
Marquette #85
Providence #88
Xavier #110
Seton Hall #123



A billion games to go before this counts, but keep in mind that the unofficial 'safe' cutoff on RPI is 40. If you are lower than 40, great chance you get an at-large bid (unless you are SW Missouri State that got outed at an RPI of 21). If you are higher than 40, then you need some breaks to go your way. So we better get some intense upward movement in the next two months if we want three or four bids.

last 3 years(which is when tourney went up to 68)- any "AQ" team that was in the top 50, they were in. Also, I think once conference play starts- just that 1st night- DePaul plays Georgetown- Georgetown would get a RPI boost.

I've said all along I think we get 4 in. I think our worst case scenario is the one that Lunardi put out last week- getting 4 in- but 1 being in the PIG.

Also- our conference has played 87 games so far. If you include the BET, the total # of games involving BE teams this year is like 227. 40% of the games are done now! 2/3 of the OOC schedule is done with now.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby Bill Marsh » Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:09 pm

stever20 wrote:
HoosierPal wrote:
A billion games to go before this counts, but keep in mind that the unofficial 'safe' cutoff on RPI is 40. If you are lower than 40, great chance you get an at-large bid (unless you are SW Missouri State that got outed at an RPI of 21). If you are higher than 40, then you need some breaks to go your way. So we better get some intense upward movement in the next two months if we want three or four bids.

last 3 years(which is when tourney went up to 68)- any "AQ" team that was in the top 50, they were in. Also, I think once conference play starts- just that 1st night- DePaul plays Georgetown- Georgetown would get a RPI boost.

I've said all along I think we get 4 in. I think our worst case scenario is the one that Lunardi put out last week- getting 4 in- but 1 being in the PIG.

Also- our conference has played 87 games so far. If you include the BET, the total # of games involving BE teams this year is like 227. 40% of the games are done now! 2/3 of the OOC schedule is done with now.


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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby Chalmers0 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:10 pm

stever20 wrote:
xu1990 wrote:Xavier will get an RPI boost in the next couple weeks playing Cincinnati (7-1), Wake (8-2) and Alabama (4-4). Hopefully all these games against decent schools from decent conferences (Iowa and Tenn x2, even USC) will continue to help the RPI as season continues.

the key for those games is to actually win them! I'd even include 6-3 Evansville in that group quite frankly.

The bad thing about Alabama- it's a risky game- but if you beat them, they quite possibly are 6-7 entering conference play. Still have Wichita St and @ UCLA on the schedule.


I will be pretty shocked if we can win at Bama. First true road game of the season, it is right after Crosstown shootout (we historically play bad in the following game) and Bama loves to pressure the ball and trap which haunted us the last 15 minutes of the Iowa game. Unfortunately Bama hasn't really lived up to expectations this year so it is going to end up being a game that we need to win.

We just need to make sure we beat Evansville and UC then go from there though. UC is an extremely critical game for us and our tourney hopes.
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Re: RPI 12/9

Postby Jet915 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:40 pm

HoosierPal wrote:
stever20 wrote:Villanova #7
St John's #47
Butler #51
Creighton #57
Georgetown #60
DePaul #78
Marquette #85
Providence #88
Xavier #110
Seton Hall #123



A billion games to go before this counts, but keep in mind that the unofficial 'safe' cutoff on RPI is 40. If you are lower than 40, great chance you get an at-large bid (unless you are SW Missouri State that got outed at an RPI of 21). If you are higher than 40, then you need some breaks to go your way. So we better get some intense upward movement in the next two months if we want three or four bids.


I think we are in pretty good shape for 4-5 bids. Remember, alot of the other power conferences have multiple teams in the 100-200 RPIs. 8/10 of our teams will be good wins (top 100 RPI) so if a team can accumulate 9 or more conference wins, plus a decent OOC, they should get in.
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