stever20 wrote:I think I saw some folks saying that Indiana St might be a tourney team this year. Looking at Joe Lunardi, he had them as the 6th team out. That's hardly in the same class as a loss to Mercer or Northeastern.
Here is the SOS of our 5 undefeated teams:
Villanova 309
Xavier 280
Creighton 337
Providence 294
Butler 284
With those SOS, they better be undefeated!!!
We are 1-4 vs top 50 teams so far(add in DePaul losing to So Miss). And, 2 of the 3 key wins you're talking about are against 1-4 BC and 2-1 Vandy- both of whom finished sub .500 last year.
Vill wrote:For many conferences - excluding teams that played in made for a TV events - the best non-con games come in the MTE tourney. Not having great league wins at this point isn't my concern. It's having bad losses that is.
Bluejay wrote:Vill wrote:For many conferences - excluding teams that played in made for a TV events - the best non-con games come in the MTE tourney. Not having great league wins at this point isn't my concern. It's having bad losses that is.
I think this sums up my sentiment best. While we don't have any real big wins, there haven't been a lot of opportunities yet either. Now, I suppose I can see the argument through that the two opportunities we did have Oregon and Ohio St, resulted in losses by what were supposed to be two of our best squads. That could cause one to say that "if our top teams can't do it, who can", but I believe it is too early to make that call. We could certainly use some wins against ranked teams though.
We do have two bad losses though in Northeastern and Mercer. Unfortunately, those aren't going away.
(PS- I still haven't seen anyone explain why Seton Hall was playing at Mercer in the first place...)
Bluejay wrote:...(PS- I still haven't seen anyone explain why Seton Hall was playing at Mercer in the first place...)
Bluejay wrote:(PS- I still haven't seen anyone explain why Seton Hall was playing at Mercer in the first place...)
stever20 wrote:I think I saw some folks saying that Indiana St might be a tourney team this year. Looking at Joe Lunardi, he had them as the 6th team out. That's hardly in the same class as a loss to Mercer or Northeastern.
Here is the SOS of our 5 undefeated teams:
Villanova 309
Xavier 280
Creighton 337
Providence 294
Butler 284
With those SOS, they better be undefeated!!!
We are 1-4 vs top 50 teams so far(add in DePaul losing to So Miss). And, 2 of the 3 key wins you're talking about are against 1-4 BC and 2-1 Vandy- both of whom finished sub .500 last year.
XUFan09 wrote:stever20 wrote:I think I saw some folks saying that Indiana St might be a tourney team this year. Looking at Joe Lunardi, he had them as the 6th team out. That's hardly in the same class as a loss to Mercer or Northeastern.
Here is the SOS of our 5 undefeated teams:
Villanova 309
Xavier 280
Creighton 337
Providence 294
Butler 284
With those SOS, they better be undefeated!!!
We are 1-4 vs top 50 teams so far(add in DePaul losing to So Miss). And, 2 of the 3 key wins you're talking about are against 1-4 BC and 2-1 Vandy- both of whom finished sub .500 last year.
Waaaay too early to reference RPI or SOS. Even Kenpom isn't that good of a metric until another few games are played.
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