FOX Sports 1 ratings

[stever20]

The Exempt Tournaments are too important. ESPN right now has a monopoly on them. I don't see any Big East school saying we aren't going to participate in this exempt tournament because it's on ESPN. So, in a lot of ways, our schools are cutting off FS1 at the kneecaps.

FS1 needs to be sucessful, but it doesn't have to be at ESPN's expense. I think there's more than enough content for 2 good sports channels. I think there's bigger issues to FS1 than the CBB tournaments though. They need to pick up something major like the NBA or Big Ten quite frankly. Or NFL, though with only a 8 game package, that's kind of a limited shelf life there- not enough to make a huge difference.

Much respect Stever......All I'm saying is I don't know what the FOX's counter-strategy is for the exempt tourny's but I do know if they didn't already have a solid plan to breakthrough, we're in deep doodoo. But one ball hasn't bounced yet, so i'm not terribly worried, yet. Personally I don't want one station to have a monopoly (even FOX). ESPN was the BE's best ally at one point but that changed dramatically over the years, the same could happen with FOX in the future. So I believe competition is the lifeblood for our conference and right now ESPN is the major roadblock to more competition and FOX is the best chance at true competition. Who knows, after this contract runs out ESPN may be the best home for the BE lol!

I don't know that they have to have a counter-strategy for exempt tourneys in some ways. They'll have some good OOC games no matter what(the rotations on stuff like Temple/Nova, Xavier/Cincy, etc.)

I think things like the NBA or Big Ten is 1000% more important than exempt tournaments quite frankly. If they don't get those- I don't know how long FS1 can realistically compete with ESPN just using a MLB game of the week, some 2nd tier football, and Big East Basketball. Oh and UFC fight night #### and Nascar. They need more mainstream sports.

[stever20]

though with only a 8 game package, that's kind of a limited shelf life there- not enough to make a huge difference.

That would be a huge pickup. Do you know how pissed Packers fans get when they can't watch the first quarter of a game? That's potentially 16 massive fanbases clamoring to watch their team.

The thing is, it's Thursday night games. It's not the great games at all. I don't see the NFL moving say a Packers/Seahawks game to a Thursday night for instance.

I think if you gave Fox a choice between 8 NFL Thursday games and NBA season package, they would take the NBA every single time. Fox needs volume a lot.

[TheHall]

I don't know that they have to have a counter-strategy for exempt tourneys in some ways. They'll have some good OOC games no matter what(the rotations on stuff like Temple/Nova, Xavier/Cincy, etc.)

I think things like the NBA or Big Ten is 1000% more important than exempt tournaments quite frankly. If they don't get those- I don't know how long FS1 can realistically compete with ESPN just using a MLB game of the week, some 2nd tier football, and Big East Basketball. Oh and UFC fight night #### and Nascar. They need more mainstream sports.

I'm not an expert on the "Forbes/Bloomberg" side of sports, but I do know when FOX over-the-air launched it was full of programming like Married w/Children, Mad TV, In Living Color, Simpsons, etc. and at that time no one would have guessed they had a chance at prying the NFL away from CBS. But they had a plan...grossly overpay to get in the door! Same with FOX "News". That's where my confidence in their competence comes from. I can see them grabbing a piece of the NBA with a similar strategy.

[admin]

This article makes it sounds like FS1 is actually do pretty well, but ESPN is miles ahead which should come as absolutely no surprise at this stage in the game.

The saga of Fox Sports 1 and their disappointing ratings has been ongoing since the network's launch nearly three months ago. In reality, the network is doing fairly decent amongst its competition on cable outside ESPN, which demolishes everything in sight.

Yes, those direct comparisons to ESPN were spurred by Fox itself, who is suffering from the high expectations they created. But what did you want them to say? It's like people criticizing Joe Flacco last year for saying he thinks he's elite: what's he supposed to say, "yeah, I'm mediocre"?

http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/nov ... -high.html

[Jet915]

Nice week for FS1.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/11/14/fox-sports-1-posts-most-watched-week-since-august-launch/215736/

[Jet915]

FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.

[stever20]

FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.

it's all pretty much because of the Oklahoma/Baylor football game drawing 2.1 million viewers and the 2 UFC cards(which by the way doesn't help us out at all- further marginalizes us) If we are getting even 300k viewers- that's still less than half of either one of those UFC cards did.

[Bluejay]

FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.

it's all pretty much because of the Oklahoma/Baylor football game drawing 2.1 million viewers and the 2 UFC cards(which by the way doesn't help us out at all- further marginalizes us) If we are getting even 300k viewers- that's still less than half of either one of those UFC cards did.

True, but part of the reason the ratings have been so bad previously is that they have had such horrible college football games. I think this number shows what can be expected when they have good games and should be encouraging to Fox execs.

[stever20]

FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.

it's all pretty much because of the Oklahoma/Baylor football game drawing 2.1 million viewers and the 2 UFC cards(which by the way doesn't help us out at all- further marginalizes us) If we are getting even 300k viewers- that's still less than half of either one of those UFC cards did.

True, but part of the reason the ratings have been so bad previously is that they have had such horrible college football games. I think this number shows what can be expected when they have good games and should be encouraging to Fox execs.

The thing is though, for Big 12/Pac 12- that's a terrible number for a 10 vs 6 game. We'll have to wait and see, but I bet we'll see even fewer good games on FS1 next year with more on Fox network.

[Jet915]

Why do you say that? How do you know? There is an agreement already in place on how many games have to be on the Fox network so why would that change next year compared to what we will see this year? Fox is committed to FS1. If we get one of the Big Ten, NBA or NFL Thursday, we will be at the level of ESPN2 easy and I don't think it's too far off saying we get atleast one of those 3.