Big East vs. Power Leagues Discussion

[Bluejay]

Getting back to the original purpose of this thread, the X represents against Tennessee with Raft in the house.

vs. ACC: 1-0
vs. SEC: 1-0
vs. Big Ten: 0-1
vs. PAC-12: 0-1
vs. Big XII: 0-0
vs. AAC: 0-0

Overall: 2-2

Honestly, you should start a whole new thread for this topic as I think it is important and a great topic throughout the noncon. Unfortunately, this thread has turned into a big mess and the update posts are getting lost.

[redmen9194]

Getting back to the original purpose of this thread, the X represents against Tennessee with Raft in the house.

vs. ACC: 1-0
vs. SEC: 1-0
vs. Big Ten: 0-1
vs. PAC-12: 0-1
vs. Big XII: 0-0
vs. AAC: 0-0

Overall: 2-2

Honestly, you should start a whole new thread for this topic as I think it is important and a great topic throughout the noncon. Unfortunately, this thread has turned into a big mess and the update posts are getting lost.

Not a bad idea Bluejay. Done.

[MUBoxer]

My initial point on Page 13 wasn't saying that the Duke-UNC-Syracuse-Louisville foursome isn't amazing... I didn't even go there. I just mentioned how I thought the other 10 ACC schools were overrated and have accomplished basically squat in recent years-- all while getting the benefit of the doubt in polls and all. I mean, after a few days, against my better judgment, I started to actually think BC was something special and was worthy of some Top-25 votes... instead, they've become the latest team to benefit from the overhyped lower tier of the ACC. In the coming weeks, look for Virginia Tech to get some un-deserved Top 25 votes.

Like say GTech's final four, Maryland's championship, Florida State and Miami in the sweet 16, Pitt's elite 8s and sweet 16s. Yeah the other 11 teams are clearly awful. And remember that until we prove otherwise we can't critique them seeing as really only MU, GT, Nova, X and Butler have done anything recently.

[stever20]

My initial point on Page 13 wasn't saying that the Duke-UNC-Syracuse-Louisville foursome isn't amazing... I didn't even go there. I just mentioned how I thought the other 10 ACC schools were overrated and have accomplished basically squat in recent years-- all while getting the benefit of the doubt in polls and all. I mean, after a few days, against my better judgment, I started to actually think BC was something special and was worthy of some Top-25 votes... instead, they've become the latest team to benefit from the overhyped lower tier of the ACC. In the coming weeks, look for Virginia Tech to get some un-deserved Top 25 votes.

Like say GTech's final four, Maryland's championship, Florida State and Miami in the sweet 16, Pitt's elite 8s and sweet 16s, ND's consistency. Yeah the other 11 teams are clearly awful.

Maryland you have to take out of consideration when Louisville arrives.

ACC is a solid conference, no two ways about it. It's not the best ever, and I don't know if i'd say it's the best this year even.

I think where the ACC is different than the old Big East- while we had the same mid tier teams consistently- they have Florida St 1 year, Miami 1 year, NC State 1 year, etc.

[Bill Marsh]

Like say GTech's final four, Maryland's championship, Florida State and Miami in the sweet 16, Pitt's elite 8s and sweet 16s, ND's consistency. Yeah the other 11 teams are clearly awful.

Maryland you have to take out of consideration when Louisville arrives.

ACC is a solid conference, no two ways about it. It's not the best ever, and I don't know if i'd say it's the best this year even.

I think where the ACC is different than the old Big East- while we had the same mid tier teams consistently- they have Florida St 1 year, Miami 1 year, NC State 1 year, etc.

Steve, I think you've nailed it. While clearly NC and Duke are in the mix almost every year, there always seems to be someone else from the ACC that has it's moment in the sun and then gives way to someone else. Final Fours alone, there's someone every decade besides the big two - Georgia Tech in the past decade, Maryland before them, Georgia Tech again back in 1990, Virginia and NC State back in the '80's, NC State in the '70's, Wake in the '60's. And if we want to look at Elite 8's and Sweet 16's, we'd come up with plenty more. As you say, the difference from the Big East is that it's a revolving list of schools that step up.