TheHall wrote:stever20 wrote:The Exempt Tournaments are too important. ESPN right now has a monopoly on them. I don't see any Big East school saying we aren't going to participate in this exempt tournament because it's on ESPN. So, in a lot of ways, our schools are cutting off FS1 at the kneecaps.
FS1 needs to be sucessful, but it doesn't have to be at ESPN's expense. I think there's more than enough content for 2 good sports channels. I think there's bigger issues to FS1 than the CBB tournaments though. They need to pick up something major like the NBA or Big Ten quite frankly. Or NFL, though with only a 8 game package, that's kind of a limited shelf life there- not enough to make a huge difference.
Much respect Stever......All I'm saying is I don't know what the FOX's counter-strategy is for the exempt tourny's but I do know if they didn't already have a solid plan to breakthrough, we're in deep doodoo. But one ball hasn't bounced yet, so i'm not terribly worried, yet. Personally I don't want one station to have a monopoly (even FOX). ESPN was the BE's best ally at one point but that changed dramatically over the years, the same could happen with FOX in the future. So I believe competition is the lifeblood for our conference and right now ESPN is the major roadblock to more competition and FOX is the best chance at true competition. Who knows, after this contract runs out ESPN may be the best home for the BE lol!
marquette wrote:stever20 wrote:though with only a 8 game package, that's kind of a limited shelf life there- not enough to make a huge difference.
That would be a huge pickup. Do you know how pissed Packers fans get when they can't watch the first quarter of a game? That's potentially 16 massive fanbases clamoring to watch their team.
stever20 wrote:I don't know that they have to have a counter-strategy for exempt tourneys in some ways. They'll have some good OOC games no matter what(the rotations on stuff like Temple/Nova, Xavier/Cincy, etc.)
I think things like the NBA or Big Ten is 1000% more important than exempt tournaments quite frankly. If they don't get those- I don't know how long FS1 can realistically compete with ESPN just using a MLB game of the week, some 2nd tier football, and Big East Basketball. Oh and UFC fight night #### and Nascar. They need more mainstream sports.
The saga of Fox Sports 1 and their disappointing ratings has been ongoing since the network's launch nearly three months ago. In reality, the network is doing fairly decent amongst its competition on cable outside ESPN, which demolishes everything in sight.
Yes, those direct comparisons to ESPN were spurred by Fox itself, who is suffering from the high expectations they created. But what did you want them to say? It's like people criticizing Joe Flacco last year for saying he thinks he's elite: what's he supposed to say, "yeah, I'm mediocre"?
Jet915 wrote:FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.
stever20 wrote:Jet915 wrote:FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.
it's all pretty much because of the Oklahoma/Baylor football game drawing 2.1 million viewers and the 2 UFC cards(which by the way doesn't help us out at all- further marginalizes us) If we are getting even 300k viewers- that's still less than half of either one of those UFC cards did.
Bluejay wrote:stever20 wrote:Jet915 wrote:FS1 beats ESPN2 for primetime numbers last week for the first time(primetime/average): 630,000/159,000 vs. 557,000/339,000. BC vs. Providence got a respectable 0.1 rating and 182,000 viewers. Goes to show, if you have programming, you will get the ratings.
it's all pretty much because of the Oklahoma/Baylor football game drawing 2.1 million viewers and the 2 UFC cards(which by the way doesn't help us out at all- further marginalizes us) If we are getting even 300k viewers- that's still less than half of either one of those UFC cards did.
True, but part of the reason the ratings have been so bad previously is that they have had such horrible college football games. I think this number shows what can be expected when they have good games and should be encouraging to Fox execs.
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