Big East vs. Power Leagues Discussion

[stever20]

Didn't CBS predict MIami to finish in 13th place in the ACC this year? This isn't last year's team.

I agree, but like for instance saw it yesterday on cbssports.com as an item on their news.

the other 2 losses for them are bad ones- for one- they're taken by teams that were projected to be 9-9 in conference and like I've said- those teams are ones that need to do well ooc to get into the tourney.

[stever20]

and the mighty ACC falls again- this time Virginia Tech losing to USC Upstate. Man the ACC couldn't start much worse this year.

[TheHall]

and the mighty ACC falls again- this time Virginia Tech losing to USC Upstate. Man the ACC couldn't start much worse this year.

Excellent!

[DumpsterFireA10]

and the mighty ACC falls again- this time Virginia Tech losing to USC Upstate. Man the ACC couldn't start much worse this year.

I didn't even know Upstate existed till last year.

[stever20]

How about this- using the ESPN 9 conferences:
AAC 2-0
B10 1-0
A10 1-0
MWC 1-0
B12 2-1
BE 1-2
P12 1-2
SEC 0-1
ACC 0-3

yes, that's right ACC at #9. Using all games, they are also behind the WCC(a whopping 9-0 start) and MVC (6-2). Overall ACC is only 12-5 so far.

Overall, we are 8-2, tied for 6 amongst all 32 conferences. Worst conference- the Atlantic Sun(1-13)- only win is against the ACC!!!

[billyjack]

The ACC really did become a two team conference-- Duke and UNC.

I really am amazed at these bullet points:
Since 2004, no team coming out of the ACC has made an Elite-8 other than Duke & UNC.
From 2007 on, 5 different Big East schools have made the Elite-8.

From 1997 on, only 4 different schools coming out of the ACC have made an Elite-8... Duke, UNC, Ga Tech, Maryland.
From 1997 on, 7 different schools in today's Big East have made the Elite-8... GU, VU, BU, XU, Marquette, SJU, PC.

Also, Big East critics sometimes downplay our Elite-8's by saying we haven't won a national championship since 1985.
However, outside of Duke and UNC, only 1 other team coming out of the ACC has won a national championship (Maryland in 2000) since NC State in 1983...

[MUBoxer]

The ACC really did become a two team conference-- Duke and UNC.

I really am amazed at these bullet points:
Since 2004, no team coming out of the ACC has made an Elite-8 other than Duke & UNC.
From 2007 on, 5 different Big East schools have made the Elite-8.

From 1997 on, only 4 different schools coming out of the ACC have made an Elite-8... Duke, UNC, Ga Tech, Maryland.
From 1997 on, 7 different schools in today's Big East have made the Elite-8... GU, VU, BU, XU, Marquette, SJU, PC.

Also, Big East critics sometimes downplay our Elite-8's by saying we haven't won a national championship since 1985.
However, outside of Duke and UNC, only 1 other team coming out of the ACC has won a national championship (Maryland in 2000) since NC State in 1983...

But look at the modern BE since 2000 (not X Creighton or Butler or MU/Depaul pre 2005) I mean it's a three team league with GTown 2 sweet 16s and a FF, MU 2 sweet 16s and 1 Elite 8 and Nova with 2 sweet 16s, 1 elite 8, and a FF. I mean our current league isn't much deeper and we don't have those National championships that the two team ACC could brag about not to mention the runs of Maryland and GTech

[Bill Marsh]

The ACC really did become a two team conference-- Duke and UNC.

I really am amazed at these bullet points:
Since 2004, no team coming out of the ACC has made an Elite-8 other than Duke & UNC.
From 2007 on, 5 different Big East schools have made the Elite-8.

From 1997 on, only 4 different schools coming out of the ACC have made an Elite-8... Duke, UNC, Ga Tech, Maryland.
From 1997 on, 7 different schools in today's Big East have made the Elite-8... GU, VU, BU, XU, Marquette, SJU, PC.

Also, Big East critics sometimes downplay our Elite-8's by saying we haven't won a national championship since 1985.
However, outside of Duke and UNC, only 1 other team coming out of the ACC has won a national championship (Maryland in 2000) since NC State in 1983...

News Flash: former national champs Syracuse has joined the ACC, fresh off a Final Four and back-to-back Elite 8's. Louisville is joining the ACC next year, fresh off a NC, back-to-back Final Fours, and 5 Elite 8's in the past decade. The ACC is no longer just North Carolina and Duke.

[billyjack]

Hi Bill,
Right, I did get that news flash about Syracuse and Louisville. I guess I'm stressing how underperforming the bottom 10 of the ACC have been for the last 10 years. If we were to look in detail at the results of those Bottom 10, what you'd find would be shocking... struggles by most of them against High Point and Old Dominion and South Alabama and Holy Cross and Bryant... I realize several of us have have had some lean years, but then we're not gifted Top-25 spots and votes like Virginia and Boston College (for example) this year, or NC State being handed a #6 ranking to start last year, or Miami of Florida rocketing up the polls even with bad ooc losses last year by virtue of beating the pig droppings inhabiting the ACC Botton Ten.

[stever20]

Hi Bill,
Right, I did get that news flash about Syracuse and Louisville. I guess I'm stressing how underperforming the bottom 10 of the ACC have been for the last 10 years. If we were to look in detail at the results of those Bottom 10, what you'd find would be shocking... struggles by most of them against High Point and Old Dominion and South Alabama and Holy Cross and Bryant... I realize several of us have have had some lean years, but then we're not gifted Top-25 spots and votes like Virginia and Boston College (for example) this year, or NC State being handed a #6 ranking to start last year, or Miami of Florida rocketing up the polls even with bad ooc losses last year by virtue of beating the pig droppings inhabiting the ACC Botton Ten.

We'll find out a lot about Virginia tonight vs VCU.

I think Miami jumped a lot last year when they beat North Carolina and Duke more than anything else Their bad ooc losses- Florida Gulf Coast, Arizona, and Indiana St. Tehy also beat Michigan St out of conference. they took off when they beat UNC 68-59- and more so when they beat Duke 90-63 and UNC 2nd time 87-61. So hardly a team to really gripe about at all, even with the end of their season.