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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby TheHall » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:06 pm

stever20 wrote:Big 12 a lot of folks want to disparage, but they have been a lot better than folks think. Even after losing A&M and Missouri, they got 5 bids last year I think it was.

I think the top 4 should be ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12. Not necessarily in that order.

Not knocking the Big12 just saying I think as a bball first league we have to & should be in the top 2 or 3 year in and year out. To do that we need to send at least 5 teams to the NCAAT annually, get to the 2nd weekend every year, the 3rd week often, and the final weekend at least once in the next 3-4 years.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby stever20 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:12 pm

TheHall wrote:
stever20 wrote:Big 12 a lot of folks want to disparage, but they have been a lot better than folks think. Even after losing A&M and Missouri, they got 5 bids last year I think it was.

I think the top 4 should be ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12. Not necessarily in that order.

Not knocking the Big12 just saying I think as a bball first league we have to & should be in the top 2 or 3 year in and year out. To do that we need to send at least 5 teams to the NCAAT annually, get to the 2nd weekend every year, the 3rd week often, and the final weekend at least once in the next 3-4 years.

I don't disagree. Just sayign some years, Big 12 has been ahead of Big Ten or ACC... Maybe not so much now but still, they're ahead of the others.

Oh and the tourney has only 3 weekends! 1st weekend goes from 68-16 2nd weekend from 16-4, and 3rd weekend is 4-1.

I think this year is a huge year. We have to be top 2-3 this year with the 5 bids.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby TheHall » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:34 pm

stever20 wrote:
TheHall wrote:
stever20 wrote:Big 12 a lot of folks want to disparage, but they have been a lot better than folks think. Even after losing A&M and Missouri, they got 5 bids last year I think it was.

I think the top 4 should be ACC, Big East, Big 10, Big 12. Not necessarily in that order.

Not knocking the Big12 just saying I think as a bball first league we have to & should be in the top 2 or 3 year in and year out. To do that we need to send at least 5 teams to the NCAAT annually, get to the 2nd weekend every year, the 3rd week often, and the final weekend at least once in the next 3-4 years.

I don't disagree. Just sayign some years, Big 12 has been ahead of Big Ten or ACC... Maybe not so much now but still, they're ahead of the others.

Oh and the tourney has only 3 weekends! 1st weekend goes from 68-16 2nd weekend from 16-4, and 3rd weekend is 4-1.

I think this year is a huge year. We have to be top 2-3 this year with the 5 bids.

Ooops...at least 5 NCAAT bids/yr, at least 1 sweet 16/yr, a couple of E8's in the next 4yrs, and at least 1 FF in the next 3-4 years.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby TheHall » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:28 pm

AP Preseason All-America First Team:

Marcus Smart – OKST
Russ Smith - LOU
Andrew Wiggins - KU
Doug McDermott - CREIGH
Mitch McGary - MICH

https://twitter.com/ESPNCBB/status/397454203133505536

It helps to have the BE representation on this list, unlike the SEC, ACC & the Pac 12.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby Lavinwood » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:07 pm

You know, all this Wiggins talk is getting a little ridiculous. Yes I know he's supposed to be the next sure thing, but we've heard that a LOT. And many don't pan out. The kid is getting huge endorsement deals and All America honors before playing 1 game. Wow. Can we see him for half a season first?
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby IamJack » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Lavinwood wrote:You know, all this Wiggins talk is getting a little ridiculous. Yes I know he's supposed to be the next sure thing, but we've heard that a LOT. And many don't pan out. The kid is getting huge endorsement deals and All America honors before playing 1 game. Wow. Can we see him for half a season first?


reminds me of the Felipe Lopez hype back in the day.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:05 pm

IamJack wrote:
Lavinwood wrote:You know, all this Wiggins talk is getting a little ridiculous. Yes I know he's supposed to be the next sure thing, but we've heard that a LOT. And many don't pan out. The kid is getting huge endorsement deals and All America honors before playing 1 game. Wow. Can we see him for half a season first?


reminds me of the Felipe Lopez hype back in the day.


That was insane. Nice trip in the way-back machine there.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby IamJack » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:58 pm

DumpsterFireA10 wrote:
IamJack wrote:
Lavinwood wrote:You know, all this Wiggins talk is getting a little ridiculous. Yes I know he's supposed to be the next sure thing, but we've heard that a LOT. And many don't pan out. The kid is getting huge endorsement deals and All America honors before playing 1 game. Wow. Can we see him for half a season first?


reminds me of the Felipe Lopez hype back in the day.


That was insane. Nice trip in the way-back machine there.


way to make me feel old. jeez. It was crazy with him and Iverson coming in back in '94.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby DumpsterFireA10 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:41 pm

I was a freshman in HS that year.

Saint Louis was in a real basketball league at that time too.
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Re: BIG EAST vs. OTHER POWER LEAGUES - HOOPS

Postby stever20 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:46 pm

DumpsterFireA10 wrote:I was a freshman in HS that year.

Saint Louis was in a real basketball league at that time too.

Good greif give it up. I mean, Jerry Palm from CBS Sports projected the A10 this year to have as many teams in the tourney as the Big East. So give me a flipping break that the A10 isn't a real basketball league.
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