Big East vs. Power Leagues Discussion

[stever20]

um, 9 conferences will have all but 1-2 of the at large bids. I'm sorry but a conference like the MWC that gets 4-5 bids a year or the A10 with like 3-4- that's not everybody else. There is a bigger gulf between the 9 conferences and the others than the gulf between the 7 conferences and the A10 and MWC.

[TheHall]

It's a matter of who's "good" now. I think most of you guys would rather be compared to the football schools than lesser basketball leagues. Would the Big East have taken a Kentucky or Kansas if they were available? I think so. The need for "descriptors" is the reason a lot of these terms exist. Does mid-major mean anything? No, it doesn't.

You're either an elite conference, or you're part of "everybody else".

I also think your first sentence is prescient. "Power conferences" can afford down years and hold their position.

I think if realignment has proved nothing else it proved that there are big boys & everybody else. It's money & tv exposure that separate high majors from mid majors. If the BE didn't get a life line from someone (FOX) the conference would have been relegated to mid major status without a way to compete with the big boys long term. The on court winning/losing changes over time but the money & the exposure stay put for the most part. BE schools are raking in more money than ever.

[DumpsterFireA10]

um, 9 conferences will have all but 1-2 of the at large bids. I'm sorry but a conference like the MWC that gets 4-5 bids a year or the A10 with like 3-4- that's not everybody else. There is a bigger gulf between the 9 conferences and the others than the gulf between the 7 conferences and the A10 and MWC.

What does this constant adding of irrelevant leagues do for the argument?

This thread was created to follow the Big East against the top leagues in the country.

[stever20]

It's a matter of who's "good" now. I think most of you guys would rather be compared to the football schools than lesser basketball leagues. Would the Big East have taken a Kentucky or Kansas if they were available? I think so. The need for "descriptors" is the reason a lot of these terms exist. Does mid-major mean anything? No, it doesn't.

You're either an elite conference, or you're part of "everybody else".

I also think your first sentence is prescient. "Power conferences" can afford down years and hold their position.

I think if realignment has proved nothing else it proved that there are big boys & everybody else. It's money & tv exposure that separate high majors from mid majors. If the BE didn't get a life line from someone (FOX) the conference would have been relegated to mid major status without a way to compete with the big boys long term. The on court winning/losing changes over time but the money & the exposure stay put for the most part. BE schools are raking in more money than ever.

I think the tv exposure part is huge. There is a huge disparity in exposure between the ACC,BE,B10,B12,P12,SEC,AAC,A10, and MWC and everyone else. Just look at how much VCU will be on TV this year. It's a lot.

[stever20]

um, 9 conferences will have all but 1-2 of the at large bids. I'm sorry but a conference like the MWC that gets 4-5 bids a year or the A10 with like 3-4- that's not everybody else. There is a bigger gulf between the 9 conferences and the others than the gulf between the 7 conferences and the A10 and MWC.

What does this constant adding of irrelevant leagues do for the argument?

This thread was created to follow the Big East against the top leagues in the country.

Pac 12 and SEC aren't the top leagues in the country. A top league doesn't see their regular season champion miss the tourney.

[DumpsterFireA10]

um, 9 conferences will have all but 1-2 of the at large bids. I'm sorry but a conference like the MWC that gets 4-5 bids a year or the A10 with like 3-4- that's not everybody else. There is a bigger gulf between the 9 conferences and the others than the gulf between the 7 conferences and the A10 and MWC.

What does this constant adding of irrelevant leagues do for the argument?

This thread was created to follow the Big East against the top leagues in the country.

Pac 12 and SEC aren't the top leagues in the country. A top league doesn't see their regular season champion miss the tourney.

I have a hard time saying a league with the #1 team in the nation isn't among the top leagues.

If you say 1 team doesn't make a league's designation, how can you mention VCU out of the A-10 as indicative of the A-10's exposure?

[stever20]

The entire A10 gets a ton of TV coverage. Definitely a lot more than the MVC.

Last few years SEC hasn't been all that good. And Pac 12 had their champion miss the tourney. that's not a top league.

[DumpsterFireA10]

The entire A10 gets a ton of TV coverage. Definitely a lot more than the MVC.

Last few years SEC hasn't been all that good. And Pac 12 had their champion miss the tourney. that's not a top league.

Congratulations, that may be the single dumbest sentence ever typed on this board.
Let's let the Big East fans determine who they want to track.

[stever20]

the A10 has 71 games on national tv this year. How many does the valley get?

[Dew]

the A10 has 71 games on national tv this year. How many does the valley get?

Define national.