Top 25 BE players as per Bleacher Report

[Bulldawg]

Why can't we just all admit our teams are horrible like we have already done at Butler?

[Dave]

First of all I'm pretty sure Dave is not a Nova fan. He's sly with a compliment here and there and then follow it with several snide comments meant to disparage the program.

What are you, 12?
You really can't have an intelligent conversation without an objective view. "Jay is the best coach in the country. We are going to sweep the Big East. Everyone else sucks." Real insightful.
I love Nova hoops. I like Jay. But to gloss over everything we do as the best is absurd. Like Scotty's teaching moments and our early exit in 2010. Or the 11-12 debacle. Or Columbia. I guess those turds are golden to you. They are not snide comments to disparage the program, they are our actual history. Final 4s, Scotty's winner vs. Pitt, the injury shortened run in 2005 (and the phantom walk vs UNC at the Carrier Dome), the integrity of the program, the Sumpter, Dante, and the Coreys... yeah just compliments here and there. I'd guess you're about 50 with your name an homage to Eddie Murphy when he was popular, so you should be old enough to know better.

And you are going to give Jay credit for developing Wayns into a pro? There, you have lost all credibility.

[Dave]

CBSSports.com: What have you learned about rebuilding the program this time versus when you originally came to Villanova?

Wright: When we first got to Villanova we had some good players. We just had to establish what our program was going to be like. It wasn't coming off anything bad. It was just a matter of establishing what we wanted to do. This time we were coming off some negativity which we created, and I think we learned how we got there was by not staying true to our core values. We got caught up in the results -- where our recruiting classes were ranked, where we finished in the NCAA Tournament, and what our record was instead of just staying true to our core values and letting all that other stuff just take care of itself.

CBSSports.com: You mention rankings for recruiting classes. We've seen teams in the past few years from lower-level leagues advance deep into the NCAA Tournament with players who weren't necessarily recruited at the highest level out of high school. Coaches always want to get the best players they can get, but are we now seeing more of a focus on how a recruit fits into the culture of your program instead of their overall talent?

Wright: I think there are a number of programs where their culture is to get the best possible player and then create a culture around them. I think there's a lot of teams that are really successful with that. Then I think there's a lot of teams that aren't successful with that and I think we may have been one of those teams. I think there are teams being surpassed by programs like VCU and Butler who just focused on what fits their culture and being a great team rather than a great group of guys who gets the best players.

Hmmm... With Jay's disparaging comments about Nova's weaknesses over the past few years.... he's probably a closet Temple fan.

[TheHall]

First of all I'm pretty sure Dave is not a Nova fan. He's sly with a compliment here and there and then follow it with several snide comments meant to disparage the program.

What are you, 12?
You really can't have an intelligent conversation without an objective view. "Jay is the best coach in the country. We are going to sweep the Big East. Everyone else sucks." Real insightful.
I love Nova hoops. I like Jay. But to gloss over everything we do as the best is absurd. Like Scotty's teaching moments and our early exit in 2010. Or the 11-12 debacle. Or Columbia. I guess those turds are golden to you. They are not snide comments to disparage the program, they are our actual history. Final 4s, Scotty's winner vs. Pitt, the injury shortened run in 2005 (and the phantom walk vs UNC at the Carrier Dome), the integrity of the program, the Sumpter, Dante, and the Coreys... yeah just compliments here and there. I'd guess you're about 50 with your name an homage to Eddie Murphy when he was popular, so you should be old enough to know better.

And you are going to give Jay credit for developing Wayns into a pro? There, you have lost all credibility.

Dude lost credibility with me when he asked me why I thought Isaiah White should be ranked as the best SG in the country and not 5th and that he should be a McD's AA next year...never mind the ranking thing, I'm a SHU fan after all, but what BE fan (in a BE forum no less) wouldn't want/expect the highest ranked recruit in the league to be represented in that game? Yet he's flinging around the troll word.

Gonna be a great season.

[GumbyDamnit!]

And before you say something like: "Geez, why so touchy..."

Rants= Truth hurts, every sports fan knows that...Anyways things are looking up in Jersey compared to the last decade lol so I'm good!

This rant= calling out a DB post that has no basis. OK Hall, argh, you big bad pirate (lol, what a joke), hope you guys enjoy last place again this year. It's about time SHU did anything positive (and it's not even on the court) and you seem to be ready to put up a banner because your coach grabs 1 decent recruit and had to give away a coaching job to do so. You must be so proud. BTW Jay's record vs SHU? 10-3. Truth hurts, huh?

[TheHall]

And before you say something like: "Geez, why so touchy..."

Rants= Truth hurts, every sports fan knows that...Anyways things are looking up in Jersey compared to the last decade lol so I'm good!

This rant= calling out a DB post that has no basis. OK Hall, argh, you big bad pirate (lol, what a joke), hope you guys enjoy last place again this year. It's about time SHU did anything positive (and it's not even on the court) and you seem to be ready to put up a banner because your coach grabs 1 decent recruit and had to give away a coaching job to do so. You must be so proud. BTW Jay's record vs SHU? 10-3. Truth hurts, huh?

No it doesn't...as a sports fan that's what I like to do, especially in a BE forum, that old fashion "my team will kick your team's butt!"

The rose colored nova glasses stuff and that other 12 yr old crap you came save...

[GumbyDamnit!]

Dave, enough. You're clearly not a Nova fan. theHall...to quote you so often. Argh!!! Just picturing you type that with absolute sincerity makes me laugh so hard. And in terms of ranking HS hoops players maybe you should send your resume to ESPN and Scout. Loser just like the program you root for.

[Dave]

Dave, enough. You're clearly not a Nova fan. theHall...to quote you so often. Argh!!! Just picturing you type that with absolute sincerity makes me laugh so hard. And in terms of ranking HS hoops players maybe you should send your resume to ESPN and Scout. Loser just like the program you root for.

You should be a Hoya fan. You think your shit doesn't stink.

[GumbyDamnit!]

Dave, enough. You're clearly not a Nova fan. theHall...to quote you so often. Argh!!! Just picturing you type that with absolute sincerity makes me laugh so hard. And in terms of ranking HS hoops players maybe you should send your resume to ESPN and Scout. Loser just like the program you root for.

You should be a Hoya fan. You think your shit doesn't stink.

Ok Dave. Come clean already. We all know you're not a Nova fan.

[hoyahooligan]

These are from last year but it's still interesting to compare the returning players: http://statsheet.com/mcb/statrank/players

Butler: None in the top 300 (Rosevelt Jones would have been but is injured)
Creighton: Doug McDermott #9 94.6 A Grant Gibbs #196 85.0 B
DePaul: Brandon Young #138 86.4 B Cleveland Melvin #194 85.0 B
Georgetown: #97 Markel Starks 88.1 B+; Nate Lubick #233 84.3 B; D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera #257 83.8 B
Marquette: Davante Gardner #213 84.7 B; Jamil Wilson #241 84.1 B
Providence: Bryce Cotton #26 92.3 A Kadeem Batts #156 86.0 B LeDontae Henton # 178 85.4 B
St. Johns: Jakarr Sampson #64 89.5 B+; D'Angelo Harrison #103 87.9 B+
Seton Hall: Fuquan Edwin #99 88.1 B+
Villanova: JayVaughn Pinkston #156 85.8 B, Ryan Arcidiacono #187 85.1 B
Xavier: Semaj Christion #180 85.3 B

They only go up to 300