TheHall wrote:Apparently BE coaches have similar priorities. Here's Lavs talking with Zags:
"For us it’s about the next step. It’s about making the NCAA Tournament and winning the BIG EAST Conference Tournament, it’s why we all came here. It’s always the same goals every year but this year we’re in position to do something special and that’s what we’re working towards every day."
http://zagsblog.com/articles/lavin-says-st-johns-goal-is-to-win-big-east-tournament/
Check the entire article too, there's no mention of a "regular" season title/championship. Like its been said before, it doesn't have to make sense, you don't have to like it, it's not a knock to the regular season, however it is the essence of BE bball. Can't wait to get to MSG for the BET next year!
FriarJ wrote:This is how the coaches feel because playing in the BET at MSG is one of the big recruiting sells. We can go around and around some more on this but it's pretty obvious you are not changing your mind no matter what you and who you hear it from.
MUBoxer wrote:FriarJ wrote:This is how the coaches feel because playing in the BET at MSG is one of the big recruiting sells. We can go around and around some more on this but it's pretty obvious you are not changing your mind no matter what you and who you hear it from.
So one coach here suddenly reflects the entire mindset? And I know MSG, as a boxer I'd kill to fight there so you don't need to tell me about the recruiting sell. I don't wanna go around on this any more it's annoying. My view is set winning it is a BFD I'd be glad to see MU win it. Given the choice between a 30 win season where MU cleans up the conference or wining a few games in a couple of days ill always chose the 30win season. I'm sorry if this continues to upset everybody.
nathanhm wrote:I think of a BET Title as slightly more valuable than a Big East Regular Season title. Probably because so many years the schedule was unbalanced and the title wasn't exclusive for instance last year Georgetown, Marquette, and Louisville shared the regular season title.
If I could rank season accomplishments it would be as follows:
1. National Title
2. Runner Up
3. Final 4
4. Elite 8
5. BET
6. Big East Regular Season Champ (solo)
7. Sweet 16
8. Big East Regular Season Champ (shared)
MUBoxer wrote:nathanhm wrote:I think of a BET Title as slightly more valuable than a Big East Regular Season title. Probably because so many years the schedule was unbalanced and the title wasn't exclusive for instance last year Georgetown, Marquette, and Louisville shared the regular season title.
If I could rank season accomplishments it would be as follows:
1. National Title
2. Runner Up
3. Final 4
4. Elite 8
5. BET
6. Big East Regular Season Champ (solo)
7. Sweet 16
8. Big East Regular Season Champ (shared)
I don't think we can standardized it because I feel like if Depaul were to come out of nowhere and make the sweet16 it'd mean more than if they were either type of the big east Champs. You know? It's all relative
Hall2012 wrote:Been reading this for a while but never posted before. Anyway, I was intrigued by this debate and decided to throw my 2 cents in.
In terms of having a successful overall body of work, the regular season is obviously far more important. If my team could have a great run in one of the 2, but fall short of the title (say, 2nd place) I'd prefer the regular season because it shows sustained success and would most likely mean an NCAA Tournament bid.
However, when it comes to winning the championship- lifting the trophy- the story changes. The prestige of the two trophies (at least in my opinion) isn't comparable.
The question I ask is: Which championship has the bigger gap between 1st and 2nd place?
It's the tournament-- If you win- You're the champion. You're celebrating in MSG on national TV. You're guaranteed a spot in the NCAA Tournament and a shot at the National Championship regardless of what you did pre-tournament, even if you didn't win a single game. If you come in 2nd place- nothing. You're the first loser- that's all.
In the regular season-- If you win- You won a lot of games, finished with a great (in-conference at least) record, you get a trophy, celebrate maybe in front of your own fans, maybe in another schools gym. The season may or may not even actually be over. You're probably going to the NCAA Tournament. If you come in 2nd place- You won a lot of games, finished with a great (in-conference at least) record. You're probably still going to the NCAA Tournament, and you still have a Big East Championship to play for at the Garden. The same thing pretty much goes for 3rd and probably 4th place.
If my team, Seton Hall, finished in 2nd place during the Big East regular season by 1 game, I'd still be really happy. If they lost in the Championship Game of the Big East Tournament, I'd be crushed.
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