Conference Realignment: What Next?

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Postby GumbyDamnit! » Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:46 pm

Just sit back and wait…. VCU? No thanks. Dayton? Nope. SLU? Nah bro. College FB is in an arms race. KU is not a football school. Neither is Duke. Just sit pat Val. You’ve got aces in your hand and when the chips eventually settle we may have some tremendous options…just in time for a new TV contract.

If you’re an ACC school do you feel secure about the future of football? What if the B10 now decides to look south towards Clemson and Fl St? Like the B12 they become 2nd class citizens overnight in the football world. But in hoops—their first true love—they’ve got a stable, shiny new home waiting just up the road. From a rivalry with WSU to KU in a decade…man you Jays fans must be pinching yourselves.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby Django » Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:00 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:From a rivalry with WSU to KU in a decade…man you Jays fans must be pinching yourselves.

Ha ha ha yeah thanks for stating the obvious re the daydreams for us long time Jays fans… I was one of the few who predicted we would be a threat to KU 10 years ago when we were lucky enough to get to the holy land here… and we’ve certainly poached a few of their recruits

unfortunately KU still has a lot of football fans and are more in shock right now that they’re being left out AGAIN, even after an NC!! This year CU has a chance to finally bust the doors open and get on the national stage so I think it will continue to be an interesting matchup (the campuses are just about 3 hours away).

We were conference mates with them way back in the Missouri Valley Conference and actually beat them 6 times white wichiturds was a commuter teachers community college, ha ha. We have not done well against them since 1960 and lost a heartbreaking sweet 16 game against them in ‘74 and again last year, and the close one in Lawrence during COVID when we had a big percentage of Bluejay fans at the Phog.

But that was a long time ago and Creighton still has a lot of ground to make up…
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby FenwayFriar » Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:43 pm

I wouldn't hold your breath re Kansas. Gonzaga on the other hand is only a matter of time.

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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby admin » Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:11 am

FenwayFriar wrote:I wouldn't hold your breath re Kansas. Gonzaga on the other hand is only a matter of time.

https://twitter.com/Sidelines_SN/status/1542696320955203586

Kansas to the Big East would be great for us, but I still think there's way too much money earned by belonging to a football conference to leave. Plus, the current Big 12 is a pretty darn good hoops league.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:04 am

So let me play devil's advocate and paint a scenario that is not as rosy a picture for the BE...

Suppose KU, Northwestern, Vandy, Duke, Cuse, BC, Pitt, Cincy, Wake, L'ville all get left out of the SEC/B1G Superconference. Is there a scenario where they accept that they will not be in the ultimate FB arms race, and decide to become the pre-eminent BB-centric--with a FB twist--conference? Let's say they look at the landscape to find a couple other school to join them and want to solidify their product in an effort to garner a HUGE BB TV contract along with a smaller FB deal. There's UConn and Villanova sitting out there with a lot of juice, with football programs and 7 hoops NC's to their name... Nova connects Tobacco Road to NY & New England and could probably upgrade their FB a tick, easily. Then you've got a new 12 team conference with a whole lot of successful BB programs (that would fetch a pretty big TV contract IMO) that let's those schools park their Tier 2 football somewhere.

Not advocating for that to happen or think it will happen but in this new landscape of volatility, who knows what will happen.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby jbarajas0490 » Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:28 am

This is insane, the time difference alone makes ucla, usc home games unwatchable.
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby adoraz » Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:00 pm

GumbyDamnit! wrote:So let me play devil's advocate and paint a scenario that is not as rosy a picture for the BE...

Suppose KU, Northwestern, Vandy, Duke, Cuse, BC, Pitt, Cincy, Wake, L'ville all get left out of the SEC/B1G Superconference. Is there a scenario where they accept that they will not be in the ultimate FB arms race, and decide to become the pre-eminent BB-centric--with a FB twist--conference? Let's say they look at the landscape to find a couple other school to join them and want to solidify their product in an effort to garner a HUGE BB TV contract along with a smaller FB deal. There's UConn and Villanova sitting out there with a lot of juice, with football programs and 7 hoops NC's to their name... Nova connects Tobacco Road to NY & New England and could probably upgrade their FB a tick, easily. Then you've got a new 12 team conference with a whole lot of successful BB programs (that would fetch a pretty big TV contract IMO) that let's those schools park their Tier 2 football somewhere.

Not advocating for that to happen or think it will happen but in this new landscape of volatility, who knows what will happen.


Anything is possible but football / money has really been the driving force behind all decision this past decade. We've seen it with every conference that has expanded, and if anything it's only gone further in that direction (see: UConn to the Big East and the AAC additions).

What good would a 12 team regional football & basketball divided conference like that do (aka an AAC+)? They'd have zero stability and would be getting far fewer basketball bids per year than the two mega conferences, so they wouldn't be competing there either (this is all assuming the ACC gets poached and thus the B1G/SEC moves to 20+ teams). If they want to form a basketball mega league to compete with the B1G/SEC then I'd think at a minimum they'd need to add all or at least half of the Big East (UConn, Nova, Georgetown, possibly St. John's to solidify MSG, etc... of course all taking basketball-only $$$), and also try adding western teams like Kansas and Gonzaga. Even that though I think is unlikely as I'd be very surprised if they don't simply go after the best available football schools.

I've seen a lot of UConn fans on Twitter talking about the ACC, but realistically a depleted ACC would either go huge on basketball to compete directly with the B1G/SEC (above scenario by inviting many more basketball schools than just UConn and Nova) or go all in on football like the AAC did. Bet on the latter with the Big East forming a nationwide basketball conference in collaboration with Fox (and maybe ESPN?). Gonzaga would be the first addition and a few years after that it wouldn't surprise me to see some more teams like Kansas added. The networks would also be thrilled with this as teams with mediocre football like UConn wouldn't be vastly overpaid as they would be playing football in a Power league. Seems like a win for everyone.

That said, I really don't have a clue what will happen. Personally I'm not thrilled about these developments as I like the way things are. Almost would rather we just skip to the part where the B1G/SEC break off and invite select schools/conferences for basketball. :roll:
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby TBC Alum » Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:59 pm

WHAT WILL BILL WALTON DO??
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Re: Conference Realignment: What Next?

Postby jbarajas0490 » Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:02 pm

TBC Alum wrote:WHAT WILL BILL WALTON DO??


He's going to be pissed.
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