TheZagaholic wrote:The Olympic sports can be in another conference, you just need NCAA and conference approval to make it happen. Which would be likely in this case to avoid undue hardship on non revenue sports. The fox/BE bit was actually something i was told by a big east insider, lol. There are definitely rumblings about the fox deal. The move will definitely be affected by the tv deal and also a final agreement on where the olympic sports reside. I think you misinterpreted the part where we talked Jay Wright/Mark Few, we were actually agreeing it would be unlikely Nova would block GU out or pettiness because of that fact. I spent like 2 minutes saying how geography isnt the issue some make it out to be, so again we agree.
GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Regardless of how realistic a Gonzaga addition may be for the Big East, it remains as clear as day that Val, the BE Presidents and our schools are committed to maximizing the league's value (and each of the member schools' value). Rumors of UConn's return to the Big East began as early as when the American formed; with each passing year, there continued to be reports and rumors of UConn and the Big East talking about another marriage. What that revealed is that even in discussions, relationships are being built and opportunities created. What I continue to see (between Gonzaga and the Big East) are two parties that prioritize men's basketball at the highest levels of college basketball and continue to seek ways of elevating their brand and placement within the sport's hierarchy. Both sides are very much viewed as "outsiders" and "outliers", as neither sponsor FBS P5 Football. In addition, Gonzaga being a Jesuit school (like Creighton, Georgetown, Marquette and Xavier), there is already a built-in peer network where those schools work together.
I do think talks have occurred between Gonzaga and the Big East; both sides would be foolish not to at least consider it (and determine what value Fox, or other networks, would place on the league's rights). Ultimately, I think the only way a potential marriage works is for both sides to get approval by the NCAA (which is likely a formality, since the NCAA is lacking true oversight and administration at the moment) to have Gonzaga join the Big East as a Men's Basketball-Only member (maybe include the Women's side as well, but even that is stretching it). Gonzaga would need to receive approval to park all of its remaining sports in the West Coast Conference, which I would not foresee a problem due to the lack of call-ups the WCC could legitimately consider (other than Seattle and Grand Canyon, there just aren't many Private West Coast programs available anymore).
As much as some here may get frustrated by the very idea of it, but I can guarantee that evaluations are being made about what the Big East's value is with other programs being added as well (like a SLU, a Dayton, a VCU, etc.). That doesn't mean that any are likely to be added, but all options should continue to remain on the table in terms of increasing value for the league and each of the teams. Nearly a decade into this incarnation of the Big East, the bar has been set; it remains a consistent major college basketball conference, capable of sending a majority of the league to the tournament annually (with a select number playing into the second weekend or beyond), proven to compete and be successful against the other major conferences, demonstrating strong fan support and remaining hosting the best conference tournament in the country. With the coaching hires this cycle, and the coaches that have been attempted to be poached before, the league has tremendously successful and proven coaches top-to-down. It is showing no signs of slowing down and will only continue to grow.
If it is determined that Gonzaga Men's Basketball can be allowed to join the Big East, and the value offered by Fox is appropriate, the league will jump all over it. I still think there's much work to be done regarding a conclusion, but - geography discarded - it is very much possible if the stars align. Just as it was prior to UConn returning, the Big East continues to function from a position of power, not needing to be reactionary. If it makes sense for both sides, we will see the Zags in the Big East; if it doesn't then the Big East will remain strong.
Xudash wrote:git - my point is that it is going to be even more difficult for a school that is not presently a member of the Big East to become one, because the per school payout will be increasing via our next media agreement.
I only hope that you are right with respect to “times two.”
gtmoBlue wrote:Xudash wrote:git - my point is that it is going to be even more difficult for a school that is not presently a member of the Big East to become one, because the per school payout will be increasing via our next media agreement.
I only hope that you are right with respect to “times two.”
Our next contract is in late 2024 - 2025. Plenty of time for the Zags, Notre Dame, and Carleton to get on board before then.
Exp: $400k/gm = $132M (11 teams), $144M (12 Teams), & $168 (14 temas)
Avgs out to $12M/yr/school
Notre Dame
In 2013, NBC Sports Group announced a 10-year contract extension to televise Irish football games. The extension began in 2016
and will run through the 2025 season. The deal reportedly pays Notre Dame $15 million annually.
ACC$5The league’s 20-year top-tier deal with ESPN runs through 2036. It pays about $240 million annually, meaning each of the 14 schools gets about $17 million.
A 2025 max may well be $250K to $300K/per game. (14 team BE)
$250K x 420=105M/year or 7.5M/school/year. $1.05B/10 year contract/$1.26B 12 year contract.
$300K x 420=126M/year or 9M/school/year. $1.26B/10 year contract / $1.512B 12 year contract.
So, what about this: a nonconference scheduling alliance between Gonzaga and the Big East. If the Big East can't offer more than a pair of games, then maybe Gonzaga goes bigger and tries to do a two-fer with the Big East and the Big 12. It would serve all parties and improve college basketball's product. It sure as hell would make January and February more compelling. What Notre Dame and the ACC are to football, Gonzaga and the Big East (and/or Big 12) could be to college hoops. Why those two leagues? The Big East will soon have the fewest members (11) of any power conference. The Big 12 will soon go from 10 to 12 (and might be at 14 for two lame-duck seasons with Oklahoma and Texas), but it's likely to be a more amenable partner than the Pac-12.
admin wrote:Matt Norlander of CBS Sports wrote a very good piece on the future of Gonzaga basketball and how the Big East could be a factor. Worth your time.So, what about this: a nonconference scheduling alliance between Gonzaga and the Big East. If the Big East can't offer more than a pair of games, then maybe Gonzaga goes bigger and tries to do a two-fer with the Big East and the Big 12. It would serve all parties and improve college basketball's product. It sure as hell would make January and February more compelling. What Notre Dame and the ACC are to football, Gonzaga and the Big East (and/or Big 12) could be to college hoops. Why those two leagues? The Big East will soon have the fewest members (11) of any power conference. The Big 12 will soon go from 10 to 12 (and might be at 14 for two lame-duck seasons with Oklahoma and Texas), but it's likely to be a more amenable partner than the Pac-12.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... or-big-12/
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