stever20 wrote:Hall2012 wrote:
It's an extreme example of course, but with an imbalanced schedule the questions of legitimacy surrounding the last 2 regular season champions will become the norm.
Don't think so. No one really questioned the regular season champions in the 16 team Big East.
adoraz wrote:At the end of the season people pay attention to things like:
*Number of bids per conference
*Number of teams in Sweet 16 per conference
*Number of teams in Final 4 per conference
People DON'T pay attention to:
*Number of bids per conference relative to conference size
*Number of teams in Sweet 16 per conference relative to conference size
*Number of teams in Final 4 per conference relative to conference size
hoops22 wrote:I agree that the number of bids is the primary consideration for the stature among conferences, when it comes to the NCAA Tournament. And if it's possible to get the Zags, I would enthusiastically welcome them with open arms. But either way, expansion is coming at some point, because we need to be at maximum strength for whatever shenanigans the football five might have in mind going forward. Even If we don't get Gonzaga, we're still likely to be adding one to three teams in the not too distant future. And although people don't want to hear it, the team that should be at the top of the list outside of the Zags, is UD. I understand the objection from Xavier fans, but I never get the hatred that comes from the fan bases of other schools.
How many people watched the Elite Eight game this year between Kansas and Miami? Well UD beat Kansas and pounded Miami by seventeen earlier in the season. We have a thread in here every season about our wins against the Football Five. Would people like to have had those scalps counted in our total? They beat Virginia Tech as well, another ACC school. On the other board there was a thread about traveling fan bases, and NCAA.com ranked Dayton as the number one traveling fan base in all of college basketball. They create good TV at home with their rabid fan base, but contribute to it on the road as well. During the season cut short by the pandemic, they were going to be a One Seed in the tournament, how many of those have we had? And they do all this on A10 money and A10 exposure. What would happen with Big East money and exposure, and the recruiting advantages that entails? They also had the second youngest team in the entire NCAA this year, starting five freshmen. They're going to be good these next few years, and are popping up on a number of the early preseason lists for next season. We're always conscious of how many teams we have ranked each week, there's a good chance they'll be spending plenty of time there these next few years.
Another argument I don't get is the duplicate market stuff. People in Cincinnati don't care about UD, and people in Dayton don't care about Xavier. They don't share the same TV stations or other media. It's not like Villanova and St. Joes, where the schools are about six miles apart. Ohio St. is more of a threat to both schools then they are to each other. And quite frankly, I would love to see a Xavier/ UD game, knowing how much they hate each other. It honestly might jump to the top of the biggest rivalry we have in the conference right off the bat. Some people complain about the UD posters, but what have they done? They're enthusiastic and supportive of their team and stand by them through thick and thin. I wish my Johnnies had as loyal a fan base. So I realize the Xavier guys will be letting me have it, but like I said, i don't understand the objections coming from everyone else. Add Gonzaga, Dayton and St. Louis, and if we can't get the Zags bring in VCU.
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