Rankings for 2021-22

[Bogg]

Don't get too caught up in the magic number generators. Just be comfortably in the top 6 conferences annually and aim for 5+ bids a season and the conference will be fine.

[ecasadoSBU]

Don't get too caught up in the magic number generators. Just be comfortably in the top 6 conferences annually and aim for 5+ bids a season and the conference will be fine.

Oh. I'm not worried about the future of the Big East at all. I just want the most bids possible. lol #feelingGreedy

[adoraz]

I'd be more than happy if we can finish top 3 with multiple ranked teams and not have to sweat a 4th bid like last year. Just a week ago we were #4, the league has had an excellent week and is very well positioned.

[stever20]

I'd be more than happy if we can finish top 3 with multiple ranked teams and not have to sweat a 4th bid like last year. Just a week ago we were #4, the league has had an excellent week and is very well positioned.

you aren't going to believe this but I think 7 is more likely than 4 the way things are going.

[adoraz]

I'd be more than happy if we can finish top 3 with multiple ranked teams and not have to sweat a 4th bid like last year. Just a week ago we were #4, the league has had an excellent week and is very well positioned.

you aren't going to believe this but I think 7 is more likely than 4 the way things are going.

Yeah I'd agree with that. 6 is probably the most likely I'd say, followed by 5, 7, 4, then 8. As long as the league doesn't do an awful job the next 10ish days we shouldn't have to worry about a repeat of last year. With UConn back, 5 bids should be the minimum we shoot for every year, even though we've only had 4 bids during 3 years (2014, 2019 & 2021). All 3 of those years we were also extremely close to having 3 bids rather than 4, so we got lucky.

For the Big East it's important to be in that #2-4 conference range, just so ESPN or whatever can't discredit us by leaving us out of Power 5 narratives. I've seen a lot of sports writers saying Power 6 or Power 5 + Big East. #1 would be great obviously, but #2 or #3 does more than enough to keep us as part of the Power narrative.

[ecasadoSBU]

Listen... There is no reason to worry about the status of the Big East as a power conference anymore. Lets get rid of that inferiority complex. The way things have trended the past decade there is no way in hell the PAC12 will consistently outplay the Big East (last year was ruined by the Pandemic so its really hard to properly rate the conferences and I don't really weight it much). So at the very least this conference will be a top-5 league every year. The top-6 leagues are multi-bid leagues every year so nothing to worry about.

the average basketball fan treats the big east as one of the big boys like the pre-2013 league. Only a few in the media try to downplay the Big East due to conflict of interests

[stever20]

Listen... There is no reason to worry about the status of the Big East as a power conference anymore. Lets get rid of that inferiority complex. The way things have trended the past decade there is no way in hell the PAC12 will consistently outplay the Big East (last year was ruined by the Pandemic so its really hard to properly rate the conferences and I don't really weight it much). So at the very least this conference will be a top-5 league every year. The top-6 leagues are multi-bid leagues every year so nothing to worry about.

the average basketball fan treats the big east as one of the big boys like the pre-2013 league. Only a few in the media try to downplay the Big East due to conflict of interests

I kind of disagree. the pre-2013 league was viewed as being one of the top 2 every year. This version right now is really good, I mean really good, but not quite in that same realm.

[adoraz]

Listen... There is no reason to worry about the status of the Big East as a power conference anymore. Lets get rid of that inferiority complex. The way things have trended the past decade there is no way in hell the PAC12 will consistently outplay the Big East (last year was ruined by the Pandemic so its really hard to properly rate the conferences and I don't really weight it much). So at the very least this conference will be a top-5 league every year. The top-6 leagues are multi-bid leagues every year so nothing to worry about.

the average basketball fan treats the big east as one of the big boys like the pre-2013 league. Only a few in the media try to downplay the Big East due to conflict of interests

There's a reason to have an inferiority complex when you actually are inferior, and that was the case last year on Selection Sunday. Sure, we got pretty unlucky with a lot of NIT teams (who didn't even accept their invites). We also have fewer teams than most P5s, so when we're down it's more apparent. Even though we were #4 in the NET rankings we were #6 on Selection Sunday, and it took a very unlikely Georgetown run to get a 4th team in. A few months ago Val was talking potential expansion, which I honestly believe was entirely due to our down year (along with the Big XII and SEC adding more teams). I'd bet that talk goes away after this year.

Anyway, last year we didn't have a great year and this year we have thus far. I'm happy with that. Various national sportswriters are noting that we're having a bounce back year, and it's important that we're having one.

[stever20]

Listen... There is no reason to worry about the status of the Big East as a power conference anymore. Lets get rid of that inferiority complex. The way things have trended the past decade there is no way in hell the PAC12 will consistently outplay the Big East (last year was ruined by the Pandemic so its really hard to properly rate the conferences and I don't really weight it much). So at the very least this conference will be a top-5 league every year. The top-6 leagues are multi-bid leagues every year so nothing to worry about.

the average basketball fan treats the big east as one of the big boys like the pre-2013 league. Only a few in the media try to downplay the Big East due to conflict of interests

There's a reason to have an inferiority complex when you actually are inferior, and that was the case last year on Selection Sunday. Sure, we got pretty unlucky with a lot of NIT teams (who didn't even accept their invites). We also have fewer teams than most P5s, so when we're down it's more apparent. Even though we were #4 in the NET rankings we were #6 on Selection Sunday, and it took a very unlikely Georgetown run to get a 4th team in. A few months ago Val was talking potential expansion, which I honestly believe was entirely due to our down year (along with the Big XII and SEC adding more teams). I'd bet that talk goes away after this year.

Anyway, last year we didn't have a great year and this year we have thus far. I'm happy with that. Various national sportswriters are noting that we're having a bounce back year, and it's important that we're having one.

I think last year was a grain of salt type of thing, and pretty much everyone views it as such. It was such a screwy season with pauses etc.

[kayako]

I doubt this strong start eliminates expansion plans, because it doesn't change that 12 > 11 in many ways and the contract with FOX is still up for renewal. But perhaps Gonzaga idea is shelved for good. That just looks like a crazy desperation move for the conference.