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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby DudeAnon » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:18 pm

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GoldenWarrior11 wrote:Wojo is as good as gone, and it is sadly time to make a separation (for MU and for Wojo). Seven years, zero tournament wins, and the program now has three straight years of a downward spiral to end a season. There are no more reasons to justify keeping him. And, for Wojo, he needs to leave before next year because the roster will be even worse than it is this year. If there is one thing that will 100% prevent you from getting another head coaching gig, it is sustained losing. MU, under Wojo, will have had more losing seasons than it did under any other head coach in decades. Wojo walked into a program elevated by Tom Crean and Buzz Williams, a program that had made a Final Four, an Elite Eight, multiple Sweet 16s and countless NCAAT appearances. Wojo, while a strong recruiter, has failed to develop talent necessary to compete in the Big East, failed to develop a winning system to compete with the top-half of the Big East, and has failed to have a program that competes for NCAAT berths and potential wins. To add insult to injury, we have a player telling fans to STFU to fans on Twitter and we have a parent telling fans not to watch or support the program if they are frustrated.

The next few weeks will get worse before things get better. We are, unfortunately, a dumpster fire at present.

Interesting rumor is that TC is already being connected to MU if/when it opens. I would not be surprised if a reunion did end up happening.


Who is TC? Can Marquette afford to dump Wojo with his contract? Assuming no underclassmen leave and their current recruiting class I would think talent wise Marquette would be near the top of the Big East...


I am guessing TC is Tom Crean
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Postby Novachap » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:51 pm

Gumby... I don't know about you, but if Jay keeps losing games like St. John's and Creighton.......
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby jfan » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:24 pm

I agree, he should be out. Plus, he doesn't look as good without his suits, which has been a key in his success! :twisted:
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby Husky_U » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:31 pm

Georgia is pretty much the definition of a college basketball dead-end job. I'll bet Crean would love to come back to Marquette. Question is whether Marquette wants to grant him a do-over.
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby Django » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:01 pm

Husky_U wrote:Georgia is pretty much the definition of a college basketball dead-end job. I'll bet Crean would love to come back to Marquette. Question is whether Marquette wants to grant him a do-over.


Don’t forget Buzz, he’s turning A&M back into a coaching black hole. Oh wait, what did he say again about the Football 5 being the “future of CBB” ?
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:59 am

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College basketball coaches on the hottest seats as regular season nears completion – CBS Sports – February 24, 2021
1. Dave Leitao, DePaul

DePaul finished alone in last in the Big East standings in 2017, tied for last in 2018, tied for last in 2019 and alone in last in 2020. Consequently, Dave Leitao was on everybody's hot seat lists entering this season. Now that his Blue Demons are once again alone in last in the Big East standings, just 2-10 in a league where everybody else has at least six conference victories, there's just no reason to expect him to still be in charge next season -- especially not with first-year athletic director Dwayne Peevy anxious to make what will be the first headline-grabbing hire of his career.

Peevy spent 12 years at Kentucky before he accepted the job at DePaul, so he knows what a quality basketball program looks like. And this isn't it. So the surest bet connected to the coaching carousel, at this moment, has Leitao being removed next month and replaced by someone who will be asked to return DePaul to a respectable place in the sport. -- Gary Parrish


DePaul Blue Demons Schedule & Results 2020-21 – ESPN
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:05 pm

On Monday February 15, 2021 Jet915 wrote:
On Monday February 15, 2021 GoldenWarrior11 wrote:
Wojo is as good as gone, and it is sadly time to make a separation (for MU and for Wojo). Seven years, zero tournament wins, and the program now has three straight years of a downward spiral to end a season. There are no more reasons to justify keeping him. And, for Wojo, he needs to leave before next year because the roster will be even worse than it is this year. If there is one thing that will 100% prevent you from getting another head coaching gig, it is sustained losing. MU, under Wojo, will have had more losing seasons than it did under any other head coach in decades. Wojo walked into a program elevated by Tom Crean and Buzz Williams, a program that had made a Final Four, an Elite Eight, multiple Sweet 16s and countless NCAAT appearances. Wojo, while a strong recruiter, has failed to develop talent necessary to compete in the Big East, failed to develop a winning system to compete with the top-half of the Big East, and has failed to have a program that competes for NCAAT berths and potential wins. To add insult to injury, we have a player telling fans to STFU to fans on Twitter and we have a parent telling fans not to watch or support the program if they are frustrated.

The next few weeks will get worse before things get better. We are, unfortunately, a dumpster fire at present.

Interesting rumor is that Tom Crean is already being connected to MU if/when it opens. I would not be surprised if a reunion did end up happening.

Can Marquette afford to dump Wojo with his contract? Assuming no underclassmen leave and their current recruiting class I would think talent wise Marquette would be near the top of the Big East...

I think Wojo is safe for at least another three seasons. Or at least he should be.
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Marquette Golden Eagles Schedule & Results 2020-21 – ESPN
Sat, Dec. 5 vs. AP #4 Wisconsin – Won 67-65
Tue, Dec. 15 @ AP #9 Creighton – Won 89-84
Thu, Feb. 25 @ North Carolina – Won 83-70

Sat, Feb. 27 @ UConn
Wed, March 3 @ DePaul
Sun, March 7 vs. Xavier

Good wins save jobs. A couple of wins in March wouldn’t hurt the optics.
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2020 Basketball Recruiting - Team Rankings – 247Sports - Updated January 13, 2021
21. Marquette
23. Connecticut
24. Xavier
32. Creighton
43. Butler

57. Georgetown
69. DePaul
85. St. John's
92. Seton Hall
94. Providence


(Villanova is not listed in the 2020 247Sports Team Rankings.)

Marquette 2020 Basketball Commits – 247Sports - Updated January 13, 2021
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ PF • Dawson Garcia • Prior Lake (Prior Lake, MN) • 6-11 / 220 • Rating: 0.9856 • National Ranking: 37 • Pos. Ranking: PF #4

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ PF • Justin Lewis • Baltimore Polytechnic Institute (Baltimore, MD) • 6-7 / 225 • Rating: 0.9611• National Ranking: 104 • Pos. Ranking: PF #16

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ PF • Osasere Ighodaro • Desert Vista (Phoenix, AZ)• 6-9 / 205 • Rating: 0.9370 • National Ranking: 133• Position Ranking: PF #24

Marquette Golden Eagles Stats 2020-21 - ESPN

Freshman Dawson Garcia is leading Marquette in scoring (13.1 PPG) and rebounding (6.7 RPG).
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2021 Basketball Recruiting - Team Rankings – 247Sports - Updated February 24, 2021
3. Villanova
9. Creighton
10. Connecticut
11. Georgetown
21. Marquette
26. Seton Hall
27. DePaul

51. Xavier
56. Butler
60. St. John's
62. Providence

Marquette 2021 Basketball Commits – 247Sports - Updated February 24, 2021
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ C • Jonas Aidoo • Liberty Heights Athletic Institute (Charlotte, NC) • 6-11 / 215 • Rating: 0.9775 • National Ranking: 60 • Pos. Ranking: C #7

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ PG • Stevie Mitchell • Wilson (Reading, PA) • 6-2 / 175 • Rating: 0.9659 • National Ranking: 86 • Position Ranking: PG #13

⭐️⭐️⭐️ SG • Kameron Jones • Evangelical Christian (Cordova, TN) • 6-4 / 180 • Rating: 0.9037 • National Ranking: 162• Position Ranking: SG #35

Marquette Golden Eagles Basketball Scholarship Chart & 5-Year Roster - VerbalCommits.com

Two consecutive recruiting classes ranked No. 21 in the country can change a team’s fortunes rather quickly. In two years’ time, these two recruiting classes will be MU juniors and sophomores. In three years’ time, these two recruiting classes will be MU seniors and juniors. Either of these seasons – or both – could see Marquette ranked in the AP Top 25, and contend for the Big East Championship.

In 2021-22, Marquette will be putting the pieces together for good runs in the following two seasons. Or at least that’s the plan.
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:30 am

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2021 COLLEGE BASKETBALL COACHING CHANGES TRACKER - HoopDirt.com – updated regularly
As we do every year, the HoopDirt.com staff will be tracking head coaching changes at all levels of college basketball (NCAA DI, D2, D3, NAIA and JUCO). This tracker will be updated when changes are official and/or confirmed to HoopDirt.


College Basketball Coaching Changes Tracker - Matt Norlander, CBS Sports – March 1, 2021 – updated regularly
CBS Sports' continually updated 2021 list of the coaches coming and going through all of Division I men's basketball
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby MUBoxer » Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:21 am

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College basketball coaches on the hottest seats as regular season nears completion – CBS Sports – February 24, 2021
1. Dave Leitao, DePaul

DePaul finished alone in last in the Big East standings in 2017, tied for last in 2018, tied for last in 2019 and alone in last in 2020. Consequently, Dave Leitao was on everybody's hot seat lists entering this season. Now that his Blue Demons are once again alone in last in the Big East standings, just 2-10 in a league where everybody else has at least six conference victories, there's just no reason to expect him to still be in charge next season -- especially not with first-year athletic director Dwayne Peevy anxious to make what will be the first headline-grabbing hire of his career.

Peevy spent 12 years at Kentucky before he accepted the job at DePaul, so he knows what a quality basketball program looks like. And this isn't it. So the surest bet connected to the coaching carousel, at this moment, has Leitao being removed next month and replaced by someone who will be asked to return DePaul to a respectable place in the sport. -- Gary Parrish


DePaul Blue Demons Schedule & Results 2020-21 – ESPN
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Horrible take. This isn't the standards of your precious Dayton. Circa 2013 we were espn's no. 16 in top 50 programs in 50 years. Two losing seasons, zero NCAA success. Three major chokes, arguably 5.
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Re: Coaching changes 2021

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:06 pm

I think Wojo is safe for at least another three seasons. Or at least he should be.
I laughed reading this.

Good wins save jobs. A couple of wins in March wouldn’t hurt the optics.
I also laughed reading this. This is good stuff.

Freshman Dawson Garcia is leading Marquette in scoring (13.1 PPG) and rebounding (6.7 RPG).
It was reading this when I slowly realized you might actually be serious.

Two consecutive recruiting classes ranked No. 21 in the country can change a team’s fortunes rather quickly. In two years’ time, these two recruiting classes will be MU juniors and sophomores. In three years’ time, these two recruiting classes will be MU seniors and juniors. Either of these seasons – or both – could see Marquette ranked in the AP Top 25, and contend for the Big East Championship.

In 2021-22, Marquette will be putting the pieces together for good runs in the following two seasons. Or at least that’s the plan.

I began cringing because I came to realization that you were, in fact, being very serious and possibly flying too high with those Flyers.

Look, Wojo is an undeniably a nice guy. He is everything Marquette wanted when it transitioned from Buzz; Wojo is buttoned-up, professional, educated, experienced, not eccentric and came from a championship-winning program - but he lacked head coaching experience. He recruits well. His players clearly love him. He has sent two different assistants onto head coaching jobs (Stan Johnson - LMU, Brett Nelson - Holy Cross). However, he will have more losing seasons than any prior MU coach in over 30 years. His first year, a 13-19 season, he started with not one, but two future NBA players in Juan Anderson and Deonte Burton. His second year, he had a lottery pick in Henry Ellenson and still couldn't crack the tournament. In five of his seven years, he has had a non-winning conference record. He has made two NCAATs, both of which ended in blowout losses (both losses were by a combined 39 points). The divorce with the Hausers ended as poorly as some reality shows on VH1. For three straights years, the team has endured a collapse late in the season. At the end of the day, all of the results begin and end with the head coach, and the results simply haven't been there. It doesn't matter that the recruiting rankings show promise, Wojo has not been able to win a tournament game with the high-level talent he brings in.

Wojo might very well be back just as likely as he is to be fired or even take another job. However, it is as clear as day that Marquette (under Wojo) has not met expectations and have undeniably regressed since the days of Buzz and Crean. In March games alone, Wojo is 11-16 (BE games, BET games, NIT games and NCAAT games). His teams do not get better as seasons progress; they take serious steps back and crumble late.

I wanted Wojo to succeed, and still want MUBB to succeed. But it is clear that this marriage is not working. The longer both parties stay together, the worse off both will be in the long-run (MU will continue to subpar stretch and Wojo will just hurt his HC career).
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