FriarJ wrote:If Marquette fans want to think the BE regular season championship is more important (I didn't even realize there was such a thing) that's their prerogative, but the BE was made at MSG and any hopes of future success to rival what it was will be made there as well. You may not want to admit it, but the BE Tournament champion far and away outshines anything that happened in the regular season. All of the fans of the original 5 will back this up I'm sure.
When they are discussing records and what team did what, they never mention regular season, they only mention the BET championships, it's all that ever mattered and I suspect and hope it is all that will matter going forward.
In the end, nobody and I mean nobody remembers who won the regular season. That's not to take away from whoever does it because they obviously have a great team, but this is an urban league and it has always been about who shines under the bright lights in NY.
I have been in this from the very beginning of the league and it's the truth whether the 5 schools with no actual BET tradition want to admit it. The recruiting pitch has always been come here and try and win this tournament, not come here and we will battle for the regular season crown.
marquette wrote:hoyahooligan wrote:There's a big difference between the Big East and every other conference. In most conferences the Regular season crown is the most coveted and most fans do not care about the conference tournament crown.
I'm going to say false on this one. The conferences with multiple bids, sure. But there are 20 conferences out there that rely on their tournament championship to make the NCAA tournament. Believe me, if you ask a Horizon League fan, or SoCon, or any other 1 bid conference which they care more about I guarantee they would say tournament. Now, the Big East tournament certainly has the most tradition and prestige, but that's neither here nor there.
FriarJ wrote:I'm talking to the Marquette fan who said they don't care about the BET. I personally think that's too bad and it will eventually hurt the conference. I can almost say with certainty if you asked any fan from UConn, Cuse, Pitt, Georgetown, Nova, SJU, SHU, and PC what their main thing they wanted outside of the NCAA it would be to win the Big East and none of them would ever be referring to a regular season champion which in all honesty I had never even heard of until you Marquette fans started saying you won it. I in all honesty thought it was just for seeding in the BET.
Honestly I can't be any clearer. Like I said the record books are clear. THE Big East Champion is always the winner of the BET. Marquette won the #1 seed. This is not meant to be demeaning or offensive. It is what it is and it is the major contributor to what made the BE great.
hoyahooligan wrote:FriarJ wrote:I'm talking to the Marquette fan who said they don't care about the BET. I personally think that's too bad and it will eventually hurt the conference. I can almost say with certainty if you asked any fan from UConn, Cuse, Pitt, Georgetown, Nova, SJU, SHU, and PC what their main thing they wanted outside of the NCAA it would be to win the Big East and none of them would ever be referring to a regular season champion which in all honesty I had never even heard of until you Marquette fans started saying you won it. I in all honesty thought it was just for seeding in the BET.
Honestly I can't be any clearer. Like I said the record books are clear. THE Big East Champion is always the winner of the BET. Marquette won the #1 seed. This is not meant to be demeaning or offensive. It is what it is and it is the major contributor to what made the BE great.
Marquette was not the #1 Seed. Georgetown was the #1 Seed. Marquette was the #3 seed. And Marquette fans don't care about the BET as much because 1) They're still new to the BE and 2) They've had very little success in the BET. No trips to the Final, 2 trips to the Semis. Seeing your team win the BET in MSG is one of the best things in the world. I put a BET title above everything but a final 4 or above.
hoyahooligan wrote:FriarJ wrote:I'm talking to the Marquette fan who said they don't care about the BET. I personally think that's too bad and it will eventually hurt the conference. I can almost say with certainty if you asked any fan from UConn, Cuse, Pitt, Georgetown, Nova, SJU, SHU, and PC what their main thing they wanted outside of the NCAA it would be to win the Big East and none of them would ever be referring to a regular season champion which in all honesty I had never even heard of until you Marquette fans started saying you won it. I in all honesty thought it was just for seeding in the BET.
Honestly I can't be any clearer. Like I said the record books are clear. THE Big East Champion is always the winner of the BET. Marquette won the #1 seed. This is not meant to be demeaning or offensive. It is what it is and it is the major contributor to what made the BE great.
Marquette was not the #1 Seed. Georgetown was the #1 Seed. Marquette was the #3 seed. And Marquette fans don't care about the BET as much because 1) They're still new to the BE and 2) They've had very little success in the BET. No trips to the Final, 2 trips to the Semis. Seeing your team win the BET in MSG is one of the best things in the world. I put a BET title above everything but a final 4 or above.
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