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Re: NET rankings

Postby kmacker69 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:28 pm

stever20 wrote:Not really sure what made yesterday different than the last few weeks, but DePaul finally dropped out of the top 75 in the NET.

tomorrow will be interesting. St John's is sitting at 74 and plays at home today. Think there's a very real chance they fall out of top 75 as well.


I think they are solidly in the top 75 now... ;)
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Re: NET rankings

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 2:30 pm

kmacker69 wrote:
stever20 wrote:Not really sure what made yesterday different than the last few weeks, but DePaul finally dropped out of the top 75 in the NET.

tomorrow will be interesting. St John's is sitting at 74 and plays at home today. Think there's a very real chance they fall out of top 75 as well.


I think they are solidly in the top 75 now... ;)

I think that's a fairly safe bet.
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Re: NET rankings

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:05 am

On February 20, 2020 Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:
DATA SET #2: One-day Volatility of NET Rankings: February 18 and 19, 2020

Observation: Last night Duke got curb-stomped at NC State 88-66. Duke had a NET Ranking of 6 both before and after the game, which indicates an absence of volatility. On the other hand, NC State’s NET Ranking improved from 60 to 52, an 8-point gain.

NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NET RANKINGS – NCAA.com - Through Games March 01 2020

Observation: Last night Creighton lost at St. John’s 91-71. Creighton had a NET Ranking of 8 before the game, dropping 5 places to No. 13 after the loss. St. John’s NET Ranking improved from 74 to 64, a 10-point gain.

Conclusion: Without access to the NET Rankings formula, any explanation for the differences cited above would be purely speculative.
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Re: NET rankings

Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:31 am

going to be interesting to see Marquette and DePaul today...

Marquette was 25 going into the game last night
DePaul was 81 going into the game last night

Will Marquette remain top 30? Will DePaul get into the top 75?
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Re: NET rankings

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:45 am

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February 20, 2020 Fieldhouse Flyer wrote:
DATA SET #1: One-day Volatility of NET Rankings: February 4 and 5, 2020

DATA SET #2: One-day Volatility of NET Rankings: February 18 and 19, 2020

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NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL NET RANKINGS – NCAA.com (Official. Updated daily. Sortable by Columns on the 'Headings' Line.)

College Basketball NET Rankings – CBS Sports (Updated daily, hours after the NCAA release. Not sortable. One-day volatility graphic up/down arrows.)
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DATA SET #3: One-day Volatility of NET Rankings: March 6 and 7, 2020

NET Rankings - Through Games Friday March 6 2020:
12 Creighton
13 Villanova
14 Seton Hall
17 Butler
25 Marquette
38 Providence
40 Xavier
64 Georgetown
69 St. John's
82 DePaul

Games Played on Saturday March 7 2020:

...... @ Georgetown: Villanova 70, Georgetown 69
...... @ St. John's: St. John's 88, Marquette 66
...... @ Creighton: Creighton 77, Seton Hall 60
...... @ Providence: Providence 93, DePaul 55
...... @ Xavier: Butler 72, Xavier 71

NET Rankings - Through Games Saturday March 7 2020:
11 Creighton
13 Villanova
16 Seton Hall
18 Butler
26 Marquette
36 Providence
43 Xavier
62 Georgetown
66 St. John's
86 DePaul

Extrema: St. John's +3 , DePaul -4
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Re: NET rankings

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:29 am


NET Rankings - Through Games Wednesday March 11 2020:
11 Creighton
13 Villanova
15 Seton Hall
19 Butler
26 Marquette
37 Providence


47 Xavier

60 UConn
62 St. John's
65 Georgetown
86 DePaul
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Re: NET rankings

Postby paulxu » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:03 am

stever20 wrote:
paulxu wrote:
stever20 wrote:This year if the Big East had 2 more teams doing even what Providence did OOC- and was doing a 12 team- 18 game schedule- The league would get 8 teams in pretty easily AND the top 4-5 teams would all be getting top 4-5 seeds just as easily...


How's that working out for your AAC teams?


It's probably going to get at least 4 teams in if not more.... With good seeds.

Sorry but the round robin does not help the Big East out at all... Going to have a lot of 8-10 to 10-8 teams. A team probably gets knocked out of the tourney as a result- and a lot of ones that do make it in will be seeded so poorly like normal that they're in impossible situations in 2nd round.


Was going to re-visit this on Selection Sunday, but that ain't happening.
So, have to go with Bracket Thursday. These are the forecasts from Bracketville, the number one guy on the Bracket Matrix:
Creighton (2)
Villanova (2)
Seton Hall (3)
Butler (5)
Providence (7)
Marquette (10)
Xavier (11)

Houston (9)
Cincinnati (12)

I guess we need to drop the round robin, go to a 12 team 18 game schedule like the AAC, so we can get more teams in with better seeds.
...he went up late, and I was already up there.
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Re: NET rankings

Postby stever20 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:07 am

The odds were extremely good that the AAC was going to get in a 3rd team due to the conference tourney, and Xavier was going to be dropped... Wichita beats UConn, and they're in. Cincy beats Wichita, and they're in. Then Houston wins it all.
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