Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby adoraz » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:18 pm

1/6 poll:
#6 Butler
#16 Villanova
RV
#27 Seton Hall
#29 Marquette
#30 Xavier
#33 Creighton

1/13 prediction:
#6 Butler (W @ Providence)- don't think they'll pass #3 Kansas (1 point L vs #4 Baylor) even though they should.
#13 Villanova (W @ Creighton & W vs Georgetown)- should pass #11 Ohio St (2 Ls), #12 Maryland (blowout L @ Iowa), #15 Dayton (2 Ws vs weak competition & Nova is only 10 points behind).
#22 Seton Hall (W @ Xavier & vs W Marquette)- should pick up at least 5 spots for beating 2 teams who received a lot of votes. Frankly should be a lot higher, but I don't think the AP will accurately rank them. Should be around their NET of #17.

Don't really care about RV, but obviously teams like Creighton will still have some.

Tomorrow will easily be our best AP poll since OOC play, maybe even the best this year. We won't have 4 teams representing us like we did in mid-December, but the rankings will be higher.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby kayako » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:30 am

Creighton would need to jump 9 teams, and I don't see it happening unless there's a transfer of votes between BE teams. My best guess #26.

Teams they'll pass:
Washington
Houston
Xavier
Marquette
Arizona
Texas Tech

Maybe:
Wisconsin
Arkansas
Colorado (if last week's oversight is corrected)
Penn State

Unlikely:
Iowa
Virginia
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:47 am

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Yahoo! AP Poll (with AP vote totals) . . . Fox AP Poll (with results of recent games) . . . CBS Rankings (AP Top 25 • Coaches Poll • CBS Top 25 And 1 • NET)

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On Monday, January 6, 2020 Fox Sports wrote:
AP Poll – Week 10 (with losses from January 6th through January 12th)

3. Kansas (1513 votes)THIS WK: @ ISU W 79-53, vs BAY Lost 67-55

6. Butler (1181) THIS WK: @ PROV W 70-58

8. Michigan State(1129) THIS WK: vs MINN W 74-58, @ PUR Lost 71-42

11. Ohio State (924) THIS WK: @ MD Lost67-55, @ IND Lost 66-54

12. Maryland (863) THIS WK: vs OSU W 67-55, @ IOWA Lost 67-49

16. Villanova (604) THIS WK: @ CREI W 64-59, vs GTWN W 80-66

18. Virginia (556) THIS WK: @ BC Lost 60-53, vs SYR Lost 63-55

19. Michigan (502) THIS WK: vs PUR W 84-78, @ MINN Lost 75-67

20. Penn State (456) THIS WK: @ RUTG Lost 72-61, vs WIS Lost 58-49

21. Memphis (455) THIS WK: @ WICH Lost 76-67, @ USF W 68-64

22. Texas Tech (287) THIS WK: vs BAY Lost 57-52, @ WVU Lost 66-54

24. Arizona (184) THIS WK: @ ORE Lost 74-73, @ ORST Lost 82-65

25. Colorado (81) LAST WK: vs ORST Lost 76-68 THIS WK: vs UTAH W 91-52

Teams Receiving Votes: Iowa 63 , Seton Hall 48 , Arkansas 38 , Marquette 25 , Xavier 18 , Wisconsin 17 , Houston 8 , Washington 6 , Creighton 6 , VCU 5 , Saint Mary's 3 , Liberty 2 , UNI 2 , BYU 1 , Stephen F Austin 1 , Purdue 1

Expect a big shake-up today from the No. 8 spot onwards.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby ConnersvilleBulldog » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:29 am

With Kansas getting stomped at home by Baylor, you would think Butler would jump to #5. I also believe Baylor has a shot of moving to #1.

I also think Seton Hall could make a big jump into the teens. Once they get Mamu back, watch out. Wednesday's game is going to be a very good one.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby ecasadoSBU » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:16 am

I hope not to see Ohio State on those new rankings!!
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Jet915 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:25 pm

New AP Poll:

5. Butler
14. Villanova
18. Seton Hall
25. Creighton

Surprised Creighton made the poll, props to AP voters.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:25 pm

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Seton Hall Edges Villanova For Top Spot In Coaches’ Preseason Poll – Big East Conference [Media Day] – October 10, 2019
2019-20 Preseason Coaches’ Poll

1. Seton Hall (5) .. 77
2. Villanova (5) ... 76
3. Xavier …………... 52
T4. Marquette .... 50
T4. Providence ... 50
6. Georgetown ... 49
7. Creighton …….. 45
8. Butler ………….. 21
9. St. John’s …….. 19
10. DePaul ……….. 11

(First-place votes in parentheses.)

Bilas Index: 1-68 team rankings, player ranks and more - Jay Bilas, ESPN – November 5, 2019
1. Michigan State Spartans
2. Kansas Jayhawks
3. Florida Gators
4. Kentucky Wildcats
5. Maryland Terrapins
6. Louisville Cardinals
7. Gonzaga Bulldogs
8. North Carolina Tar Heels
9. Duke Blue Devils
10. Villanova Wildcats

15. Davidson Wildcats
17. VCU Rams
21. Ohio State Buckeyes
22. Providence Friars
25. Seton Hall Pirates

27. Saint Mary's Gaels
29. Dayton Flyers
31. Xavier Musketeers
38. Georgetown Hoyas
47. Marquette Golden Eagles

55. Creighton Bluejays
57. UConn Huskies
60. Butler Bulldogs

Making accurate preseason predictions can be pretty tricky.

On Monday January 6, 2020 Edrick wrote:
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@cbrownsports BREAKING: Following wins over St. John's and Creighton, Butler jumps from 11th to 6th in this week's @AP_Top25 poll.

It surpasses the Bulldogs' 8th rank on 2/18/08 for the highest in program history.

Congratulations to the Butler Bulldogs!
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Novachap » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:25 pm

Not bad, 4 in top 25!
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Edrick » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:28 pm

With that, Xavier and Butler officially have the exact same number of weeks in the AP Top 25 this century at 121 weeks. That equates to 30.8% of the polls over the last twenty years.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby ecasadoSBU » Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:33 pm

How the heck is Ohio state #21 after 4 straight losses.

This big10 bias is killing me
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