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[kayako]

However, perception if the league beats the tar out of each other, while ACC has say Duke finish at 16-2, or Big Ten if Michigan St finishes 16-2, etc. is going to get hurt.

Perception won't change much if the Big East remains the top conference even if the teams beat each other up. Maybe we won't have #1 seeds... but we will have a ton of great and experienced teams that move on to the tournament

Go back to 2011 when the league had 11 bids and the 9th place team won the national championship.

More recently, and closer to what the BE looks like now, Kansas won the B12 with 13-5 record in 2015. They sent 7 teams to the tournament with seeds of 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 9, 11. Stever's just trying to state the worst case scenario as usual.

[stever20]

so much for the A10
Dayton 14
Richmond 54(-29)
VCU 58
Duquesne 66(-43)
George Mason 72

We know you hate the A10 (AAC rival?) and love taking shots at them, but Davidson has been a massive disappointment. It was supposed to be a strong top 3 with VCU, Davidson, and Dayton, and we knew the rest were mediocre at best. For their sake VCU (no signature ooc win) and maybe SLU (NET 61 & @KSU best win) better beat up on other A10 teams to enure more than 1 at-large bid.

up to this week they were looking really good even with that. But yesterday with Richmond and Duquesne falling like they did really hurt them.... Looks like Dayton may need to lose in the conference tourney for them to get 2.

[ecasadoSBU]

Some good press from the NCAA:

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-me ... ball-alert

[stever20]

However, perception if the league beats the tar out of each other, while ACC has say Duke finish at 16-2, or Big Ten if Michigan St finishes 16-2, etc. is going to get hurt.

Perception won't change much if the Big East remains the top conference even if the teams beat each other up. Maybe we won't have #1 seeds... but we will have a ton of great and experienced teams that move on to the tournament

Go back to 2011 when the league had 11 bids and the 9th place team won the national championship.

More recently, and closer to what the BE looks like now, Kansas won the B12 with 13-5 record in 2015. They sent 7 teams to the tournament with seeds of 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 9, 11. Stever's just trying to state the worst case scenario as usual.

Do you really think that in conference play there will be 5 teams at 11-7 or better? Sure if that happens, the top 5 seeds will be great. But do you really think there's going to be this great seperation this season? Hell, I'd be more expecting a final standings similar to last year where only 2 teams win double digits and then 4 teams at 9-9.

[BEXU]

#1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2020/ ... e/Big-East

[adoraz]

We all know someone will get a high seed. Virtually everyone (besides Providence) would get a high seed simply by getting to 12 wins or so. The amount of Q1 opportunities will be ridiculous. I think we'll end up with 2 high seeds and 7 teams in.

This is actually a really unique situation. Last year for instance, only 4 of the teams had a shot at a high seed based on their OOC. The case for multiple high seeds this year is STRONGER than most in the past because of this.

Let's say for instance St. John's goes 12-6 or even 11-7. Add our 11-2 OOC with 2 Q1 wins and we'd be looking pretty good.

[GumbyDamnit!]

We all know someone will get a high seed. Virtually everyone (besides Providence) would get a high seed simply by getting to 12 wins or so. The amount of Q1 opportunities will be ridiculous. I think we'll end up with 2 high seeds and 7 teams in.

This is actually a really unique situation. Last year for instance, only 4 of the teams had a shot at a high seed based on their OOC. The case for multiple high seeds this year is STRONGER than most in the past because of this.

Let's say for instance St. John's goes 12-6 or even 11-7. Add our 11-2 OOC with 2 Q1 wins and we'd be looking pretty good.

Adoraz, you guys are in GREAT shape IMO. I think your problem is everyone else's perception of SJU before the season began. Much like Butler and DePaul just because of where you guys were picked preseason, has clouded perception. But your performance has been solid.

Top 100 NET
Wins:
10 (H)
19 (N)
Losses:
88 (H)
55 (N)

Two GREAT wins and no terrible losses. Now you'll get another 16+ games against top 100 teams. Keep winning and you'll easily get in. 11 conf wins and you're probably a 6-10 seed depending on who you beat and where.

At this point we all need to win conference games. But there will be very few poison games to worry about losing and tons of opportunity games that can boost NET ratings. In all honesty we all need to make sure not to lose to PC--especially at home. Unfortunately something tells me PC finds itself more and more as the season goes on.

[adoraz]

We all know someone will get a high seed. Virtually everyone (besides Providence) would get a high seed simply by getting to 12 wins or so. The amount of Q1 opportunities will be ridiculous. I think we'll end up with 2 high seeds and 7 teams in.

This is actually a really unique situation. Last year for instance, only 4 of the teams had a shot at a high seed based on their OOC. The case for multiple high seeds this year is STRONGER than most in the past because of this.

Let's say for instance St. John's goes 12-6 or even 11-7. Add our 11-2 OOC with 2 Q1 wins and we'd be looking pretty good.

Adoraz, you guys are in GREAT shape IMO. I think your problem is everyone else's perception of SJU before the season began. Much like Butler and DePaul just because of where you guys were picked preseason, has clouded perception. But your performance has been solid.

Top 100 NET
Wins:
10 (H)
19 (N)
Losses:
88 (H)
55 (N)

Two GREAT wins and no terrible losses. Now you'll get another 16+ games against top 100 teams. Keep winning and you'll easily get in. 11 conf wins and you're probably a 6-10 seed depending on who you beat and where.

At this point we all need to win conference games. But there will be very few poison games to worry about losing and tons of opportunity games that can boost NET ratings. In all honesty we all need to make sure not to lose to PC--especially at home. Unfortunately something tells me PC finds itself more and more as the season goes on.

Yes, last year we had 4 teams with good OOC resumes (Nova, SJU, SHU and MU). It's no coincidence that those were the 4 teams to make the Dance. In a way, whenever they lost to one of the other 6 teams they were "poison games". Not NET killers by any means, but those other 6 teams didn't have a chance at the Dance unless they got 10/11/12+ wins. Totally different scenario this year. Until we start forming a clearer picture and a couple teams pivot towards the bottom, PC is the ONLY team to root against.

[XUFan09]

so much for the A10
Dayton 14
Richmond 54(-29)
VCU 58
Duquesne 66(-43)
George Mason 72

We know you hate the A10 (AAC rival?) and love taking shots at them, but Davidson has been a massive disappointment. It was supposed to be a strong top 3 with VCU, Davidson, and Dayton, and we knew the rest were mediocre at best. For their sake VCU (no signature ooc win) and maybe SLU (NET 61 & @KSU best win) better beat up on other A10 teams to enure more than 1 at-large bid.

up to this week they were looking really good even with that. But yesterday with Richmond and Duquesne falling like they did really hurt them.... Looks like Dayton may need to lose in the conference tourney for them to get 2.

That's rather premature. The A10 offers a lot of opportunities for winnable games that help the resume.

[Hall2012]

We all know someone will get a high seed. Virtually everyone (besides Providence) would get a high seed simply by getting to 12 wins or so. The amount of Q1 opportunities will be ridiculous. I think we'll end up with 2 high seeds and 7 teams in.

This is actually a really unique situation. Last year for instance, only 4 of the teams had a shot at a high seed based on their OOC. The case for multiple high seeds this year is STRONGER than most in the past because of this.

Let's say for instance St. John's goes 12-6 or even 11-7. Add our 11-2 OOC with 2 Q1 wins and we'd be looking pretty good.

Adoraz, you guys are in GREAT shape IMO. I think your problem is everyone else's perception of SJU before the season began. Much like Butler and DePaul just because of where you guys were picked preseason, has clouded perception. But your performance has been solid.

Top 100 NET
Wins:
10 (H)
19 (N)
Losses:
88 (H)
55 (N)

Two GREAT wins and no terrible losses. Now you'll get another 16+ games against top 100 teams. Keep winning and you'll easily get in. 11 conf wins and you're probably a 6-10 seed depending on who you beat and where.

At this point we all need to win conference games. But there will be very few poison games to worry about losing and tons of opportunity games that can boost NET ratings. In all honesty we all need to make sure not to lose to PC--especially at home. Unfortunately something tells me PC finds itself more and more as the season goes on.

Proposal for PC:

Throw every conference game. Go 0-18 and we'll let you guys win the BET. Bang. 10 teams dancing.