Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:31 am

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adoraz wrote:Ah, now I remember why I didn't do predictions earlier- ESPN's Top 25 page no longer features the results from this week. That makes it a pain to go back and forth to each team page and see how they did. In the past I wouldn't need to leave the page, aside from checking to see how teams just outside the Top 25 did. Is anyone aware of a similar alternative to ESPN's setup last year? If not, I might still do it tonight if we win.

Foxsports: https://www.foxsports.com/college-baske ... 019&poll=1

Thanks marquette.
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AP Poll
AP Poll Week 5 – Monday, December 2, 2019

16. Seton Hall (629 votes)
23. Villanova (192)
24. Butler (165)


Others with votes :

Florida (111)
Xavier (91)
San Diego State (89)
Saint Mary's (86)
Oklahoma State (85)
Texas Tech (43)
West Virginia (28)
Purdue (24)
DePaul (18)
Arkansas (17)
Indiana (13)
Penn State (9)
Stephen F. Austin (7)
Oklahoma (6)
Liberty (5)
VCU (2)
Richmond (2)
Notre Dame (2)
SMU (1)
Delaware (1)

Seton Hall and DePaul will take hits, but Villanova, Butler, and Xavier should move up. Marquette should also be getting votes.
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College Basketball Power 16 Rankings - Jeff Borzello, ESPN – Monday, December 9, 2019
15. Butler Bulldogs (9-0) Previous ranking: Unranked

This week: at Baylor (Tuesday), vs. Southern (Saturday)

I wasn't the only one to underestimate the Bulldogs entering the season, but I was way off on LaVall Jordan's team in the preseason. A 14-point win over Florida on Saturday brought Butler to 9-0 this season, with wins over an assortment of power-conference teams: Minnesota, Missouri, Stanford, Ole Miss and Florida. Besides the Gators, none of those opponents is projected to end up in the NCAA tournament, but it's a quality résumé nonetheless. Kamar Baldwin has been one of the most productive players in the country so far, scoring at least 22 points in four of his past seven games. Baldwin has taken a huge step forward in his perimeter shooting, hitting 41.7% through nine games after making 31.1% last season.

16. Xavier Musketeers (9-1) Previous ranking: Unranked

This week: at Wake Forest (Saturday)

The Musketeers are back in the rankings after handling Cincinnati in a rivalry game on Saturday, giving Travis Steele's team another solid win on the ledger. The only loss so far came on a neutral court against Florida. Before the calendar turns to 2020, however, things get interesting for Xavier. Three of its next four games are on the road, including the Big East opener at Villanova on Dec. 30. Naji Marshall has been one of the most all-around productive players in the league this season, highlighted by his effort against the Bearcats: 31 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 5 steals.

Dropped out: North Carolina (7), Michigan State (11), Florida State (15)
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby kayako » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:16 am

adoraz wrote:Well, crappy ending to a great week, but still a great week. Actually our AP teams won't be helped out as much as the bottom half of the conference (St. John's, Marquette, Georgetown, Creighton) who should pick up some votes but won't be ranked tomorrow.


Yeah I also see Butler jumping both Nova and Seton Hall. Really curious to see how Georgetown's 2 true road wins get rewarded.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Jet915 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:03 am

kayako wrote:
adoraz wrote:Well, crappy ending to a great week, but still a great week. Actually our AP teams won't be helped out as much as the bottom half of the conference (St. John's, Marquette, Georgetown, Creighton) who should pick up some votes but won't be ranked tomorrow.


Yeah I also see Butler jumping both Nova and Seton Hall. Really curious to see how Georgetown's 2 true road wins get rewarded.


I doubt they get many votes if any due to UNCG.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby kayako » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:25 pm

https://apnews.com/APTop25CollegeBasketballPoll

18 Butler
20 Villanova
22 Seton Hall
23 Xavier

30 Marquette
DePaul with a single vote

Surprised that Georgetown and Creighton got no love
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Husky_U » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:53 pm

kayako wrote:https://apnews.com/APTop25CollegeBasketballPoll

18 Butler
20 Villanova
22 Seton Hall
23 Xavier

30 Marquette
DePaul with a single vote

Surprised that Georgetown and Creighton got no love


Well done. Georgetown received 4 votes.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby FenwayFriar » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:16 pm

Husky_U wrote:
kayako wrote:https://apnews.com/APTop25CollegeBasketballPoll

18 Butler
20 Villanova
22 Seton Hall
23 Xavier

30 Marquette
DePaul with a single vote

Surprised that Georgetown and Creighton got no love


Well done. Georgetown received 4 votes.


I think your're seeing Georgia receive 4 votes. Gtown didn't receive any.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby adoraz » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:58 pm

kayako wrote:https://apnews.com/APTop25CollegeBasketballPoll

18 Butler
20 Villanova
22 Seton Hall
23 Xavier

30 Marquette
DePaul with a single vote

Surprised that Georgetown and Creighton got no love


Very nice showing!

My predictions were:
#17 Butler (actual: #18)
#20 Villanova (actual: #20)
#24 Seton Hall (actual: #22)
#25 Xavier (actual: #23)

Glad they gave Xavier more credit than I anticipated (Cincinnati isn't a great team, but still X is 9-1), and didn't penalize Seton Hall too much for a very tough road game. Butler should be higher, but overall can't complain. Good to see Marquette getting credit for a very underrated resume. They might be able to sneak in prior to conference play. DePaul dropping all the way to 1 vote after a 1-1 week against Texas Tech and Buffalo is a little silly, but hopefully they will settle down now that they're no longer in the spot light. Still a great OOC resume for them.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Husky_U » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:28 pm

FenwayFriar wrote:
Husky_U wrote:
kayako wrote:https://apnews.com/APTop25CollegeBasketballPoll

18 Butler
20 Villanova
22 Seton Hall
23 Xavier

30 Marquette
DePaul with a single vote

Surprised that Georgetown and Creighton got no love


Well done. Georgetown received 4 votes.


I think your're seeing Georgia receive 4 votes. Gtown didn't receive any.


Ya, you're right. Went off ESPN, which it lists Georgetown instead of Georgia. Typical ESPN liarfaces.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby kayako » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:15 am

Husky_U wrote:Ya, you're right. Went off ESPN, which it lists Georgetown instead of Georgia. Typical ESPN liarfaces.


I don't even blame espn. Georgetown has superior resume to Georgia. 300+ sos.
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Re: Top 25 - Getting & Staying Ranked (2019-2020)

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:55 am

kayako wrote:
Georgetown has superior resume to Georgia.

The numbers support your contention.

UDPride RPI Rankings – games through Monday December 9, 2019
28. Georgetown
116. Georgia

2020 Pomeroy College Basketball Ratings – games through Monday December 9, 2019
46. Georgetown
64. Georgia
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In this morning’s Poll Attacks, Gary is very impressed with Chris Holtmann's Ohio State Buckeyes.

Poll Attacks - Gary Parrish, CBS Sports – December 10, 2019 (published each Tuesday and well worth a read)
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