(3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby herodotus » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:36 pm

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kayako wrote:Marquette is only 3.5 points underdog, a very nice opportunity to grab another signature win and really push for a high seed.

With Providence, I donno, I don't want to state the obvious and ruffle feathers in the process. But this is a crucial time to stop the bleeding. Lose today and

1. Their season is over without question
2. They'll ruin bids and seedings


and the bad thing is that Providence still has 3 tough games left- tougher than any they've played so far- they haven't played a single KP top 100 team mind you- @ 94 Rhode Island, vs 31 Florida, and home 46 Texas.


Those games will be a chance to right the ship, but also could send them well out of the top 100, making them a landmine for the rest of the league. Their play has been as much of a surprise as DePaul's has, but in the opposite direction.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:48 pm

herodotus wrote:
stever20 wrote:
kayako wrote:Marquette is only 3.5 points underdog, a very nice opportunity to grab another signature win and really push for a high seed.

With Providence, I donno, I don't want to state the obvious and ruffle feathers in the process. But this is a crucial time to stop the bleeding. Lose today and

1. Their season is over without question
2. They'll ruin bids and seedings


and the bad thing is that Providence still has 3 tough games left- tougher than any they've played so far- they haven't played a single KP top 100 team mind you- @ 94 Rhode Island, vs 31 Florida, and home 46 Texas.


Those games will be a chance to right the ship, but also could send them well out of the top 100, making them a landmine for the rest of the league. Their play has been as much of a surprise as DePaul's has, but in the opposite direction.

Providence might already be out of the top 100 in the NET- just we can't see it yet. KP still has a lot of last year baked into it... Just FYI- the RPI right now for PC is.... 273.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby Westbrook#36 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:58 pm

I like to dump on PC as much as anyone, for reasons just like this. Which is why they never get voted in the top 3 or 4 of the preseason BE rankings, because non PC fans don't trust them. Which leads to multiple PC fans circling the wagons, usually led by friarJ. Every year it seems they have one or two poor stretches, only for Cooley to give a come to Jesus speech and them turning the corner into what they are pretty much every year, a bubble team. Actually the bubble should be renamed the Providence line in honor of their work the last 6 or so years. Maybe it's that archaic and antiquated offense that Cooley runs or whatever. The thing is, unless Cooley really is mailing in because of his new contract, he will get them near the bubble again somehow, if the last 6 years results are to be believed.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:02 pm

Westbrook#36 wrote:I like to dump on PC as much as anyone, for reasons just like this. Which is why they never get voted in the top 3 or 4 of the preseason BE rankings, because non PC fans don't trust them. Which leads to multiple PC fans circling the wagons, usually led by friarJ. Every year it seems they have one or two poor stretches, only for Cooley to give a come to Jesus speech and them turning the corner into what they are pretty much every year, a bubble team. Actually the bubble should be renamed the Providence line in honor of their work the last 6 or so years. Maybe it's that archaic and antiquated offense that Cooley runs or whatever. The thing is, unless Cooley really is mailing in because of his new contract, he will get them near the bubble again somehow.

The problem this year is that they already have as many OOC losses as they've ever had in the Big East since reformation..... 4. And still 3 very tough games to go.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby kayako » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:02 pm

stever20 wrote:and the bad thing is that Providence still has 3 tough games left- tougher than any they've played so far- they haven't played a single KP top 100 team mind you- @ 94 Rhode Island, vs 31 Florida, and home 46 Texas.


Usually there are always two (or more) sides to the story, but with Providence this is strictly on what they are unable to do (make a stinkin layup). It's kind of a blessing in that their toughest games are ahead of them. We'll see what they are made of.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby scoscox » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:19 pm

Westbrook#36 wrote:I like to dump on PC as much as anyone, for reasons just like this. Which is why they never get voted in the top 3 or 4 of the preseason BE rankings, because non PC fans don't trust them. Which leads to multiple PC fans circling the wagons, usually led by friarJ. Every year it seems they have one or two poor stretches, only for Cooley to give a come to Jesus speech and them turning the corner into what they are pretty much every year, a bubble team. Actually the bubble should be renamed the Providence line in honor of their work the last 6 or so years. Maybe it's that archaic and antiquated offense that Cooley runs or whatever. The thing is, unless Cooley really is mailing in because of his new contract, he will get them near the bubble again somehow, if the last 6 years results are to be believed.


eh, they tanked last year. hopefully it's a trend
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:22 pm

kayako wrote:
stever20 wrote:and the bad thing is that Providence still has 3 tough games left- tougher than any they've played so far- they haven't played a single KP top 100 team mind you- @ 94 Rhode Island, vs 31 Florida, and home 46 Texas.


Usually there are always two (or more) sides to the story, but with Providence this is strictly on what they are unable to do (make a stinkin layup). It's kind of a blessing in that their toughest games are ahead of them. We'll see what they are made of.

lol, that's a pretty good thought.

So you're saying their toughest remaining OOC game then is today vs Pepperdine... Probably too true quite frankly!
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby kayako » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:54 pm

stever20 wrote:So you're saying their toughest remaining OOC game then is today vs Pepperdine... Probably too true quite frankly!


What I do think is it didn't really matter who they played the last 3 games, they would have lost. If they're going to salvage their ooc, their only chance is to beat good teams. Not saying I like their chances.

Marquette didn't show up today.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby stever20 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:57 pm

kayako wrote:
stever20 wrote:So you're saying their toughest remaining OOC game then is today vs Pepperdine... Probably too true quite frankly!


What I do think is it didn't really matter who they played the last 3 games, they would have lost. If they're going to salvage their ooc, their only chance is to beat good teams. Not saying I like their chances.

Marquette didn't show up today.


that or Maryland is really really good.

Good news for Nova IMO as Temple played with Maryland the entire game. The game with Temple is at Temple- and would be a game that would help Nova out a lot with a win.
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Re: (3) Sunday Big East Games 12/1/19

Postby marquette » Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:06 pm

Maryland is playing good D but we are also missing open shots. We have to stop travelling, it's been a real problem for us this year.
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