Could the Big East (and the WAC) (re)build (FCS) FB leagues?

[TheDon]

The WAC is adding Tarleton State for Olympic sports, and all of a sudden there is talk that there is a long-term goal of bringing back FB in the FCS classification.

There is a school called Tarelton State?

[Django]

The WAC is adding Tarleton State for Olympic sports, and all of a sudden there is talk that there is a long-term goal of bringing back FB in the FCS classification.

There is a school called Tarelton State?

Isn’t that where Uncle Rico played?

[adoraz]

I don't want the Big East adding football in any capacity as it'd downgrade our image. "Power 5" is a football term which is not applicable to us, however if we added football (which clearly wouldn't be aligned with P5 or even G5) then we'd look weak and could lose our basketball standing. As it stands we are equally respected by other power basketball conferences (just see our challenges with the Big XII/Ten, or CBS's Selection Show including us in their Power 6 graphic).

The AAC meanwhile isn't respected in the same way and I believe that is in part due to football. They try so hard to be a power in basketball and football (those pathetic "P6" commercials), and in turn they are not a power in either. If they went all in on basketball instead and added some teams like VCU/Gonzaga/Dayton rather than ECU/Navy/Tulane I bet they would still be seen as a power conference in basketball.

Prioritizing basketball and not putting any effort/expenses into football is our best path in terms of respect/recruiting/finances, and thus everything that comes with it (winning). It'd be so pathetic if we added FCS and actually tried achieving an impossible goal like the AAC is doing now (P5 status). We need to show confidence in basketball and keep blazing our own path, and as long as we do that we will continue recruiting well and winning championships.

[ecasadoSBU]

I think it will make the Big East look "small-time" by playing a bunch of smaller FCS schools.

Not a good idea. Just let the Big East focus on basketball. Don't water down the image by offering a product that generates little interest (FCS football).

I personally follow Stony Brook football and CAA football, but I'm the exception. Very few people follow Northeast FCS football.

[hoyahooligan]

I don't want the Big East adding football in any capacity as it'd downgrade our image. "Power 5" is a football term which is not applicable to us, however if we added football (which clearly wouldn't be aligned with P5 or even G5) then we'd look weak and could lose our basketball standing. As it stands we are equally respected by other power basketball conferences (just see our challenges with the Big XII/Ten, or CBS's Selection Show including us in their Power 6 graphic).

The AAC meanwhile isn't respected in the same way and I believe that is in part due to football. They try so hard to be a power in basketball and football (those pathetic "P6" commercials), and in turn they are not a power in either. If they went all in on basketball instead and added some teams like VCU/Gonzaga/Dayton rather than ECU/Navy/Tulane I bet they would still be seen as a power conference in basketball.

Prioritizing basketball and not putting any effort/expenses into football is our best path in terms of respect/recruiting/finances, and thus everything that comes with it (winning). It'd be so pathetic if we added FCS and actually tried achieving an impossible goal like the AAC is doing now (P5 status). We need to show confidence in basketball and keep blazing our own path, and as long as we do that we will continue recruiting well and winning championships.

Let me preface this by saying I do not care about Football at all. It was a major plus for me that football was not a big deal at Georgetown.

That being said, I think you've got this wrong. I think Football is the only reason the AAC gets any respect at all. If they were only a basketball conference they would be thought of like CUSA or the MWC. With football they're slightly above them.

I don't think it would hurt the BE to have a FCS league. I just don't think there's any reason to do it. But no one would think the BE forming a FCS conference would mean that we were trying to break into FBS. Would hurt Villanova football they're miles ahead of the other BE teams that have football.

[billyjack]

i think it's nice that even though all of us know that Sam Elliott is an AAC troll, we're all respectful to him.

[gtmoBlue]

It's nice to have an actor on this board.

[adoraz]

I don't want the Big East adding football in any capacity as it'd downgrade our image. "Power 5" is a football term which is not applicable to us, however if we added football (which clearly wouldn't be aligned with P5 or even G5) then we'd look weak and could lose our basketball standing. As it stands we are equally respected by other power basketball conferences (just see our challenges with the Big XII/Ten, or CBS's Selection Show including us in their Power 6 graphic).

The AAC meanwhile isn't respected in the same way and I believe that is in part due to football. They try so hard to be a power in basketball and football (those pathetic "P6" commercials), and in turn they are not a power in either. If they went all in on basketball instead and added some teams like VCU/Gonzaga/Dayton rather than ECU/Navy/Tulane I bet they would still be seen as a power conference in basketball.

Prioritizing basketball and not putting any effort/expenses into football is our best path in terms of respect/recruiting/finances, and thus everything that comes with it (winning). It'd be so pathetic if we added FCS and actually tried achieving an impossible goal like the AAC is doing now (P5 status). We need to show confidence in basketball and keep blazing our own path, and as long as we do that we will continue recruiting well and winning championships.

Let me preface this by saying I do not care about Football at all. It was a major plus for me that football was not a big deal at Georgetown.

That being said, I think you've got this wrong. I think Football is the only reason the AAC gets any respect at all. If they were only a basketball conference they would be thought of like CUSA or the MWC. With football they're slightly above them.

I don't think it would hurt the BE to have a FCS league. I just don't think there's any reason to do it. But no one would think the BE forming a FCS conference would mean that we were trying to break into FBS. Would hurt Villanova football they're miles ahead of the other BE teams that have football.

I'm talking purely from a basketball perspective here. I think a lot of AAC schools are better off prioritizing football, but in doing so they are hurting basketball. Two reasons for that:

1. Financially they aren't getting anywhere close to P5 money and it's really tough to compete in both basketball and football on a limited budget.
2. AAC basketball would be undeniably better if instead of adding football schools like ECU/Navy/Tulane they added Gonzaga/VCU/Dayton. That'd actually be a pretty good basketball conference and would kill off the A10.

Keep in mind, the AAC typically only sends 2-3 teams to the Tournament each year and has gotten very little respect. Teams make the Tournament and fact is they chose football teams rather than basketball teams. If they added VCU and Gonzaga alone, they would not have 2-3 bid years. I'm not saying that would've been the correct decision overall because they are a decent football conference, but from a basketball perspective I don't see how football helps.

As for the Big East, I'd be embarrassed if we sponsored FCS football. I'll leave it at that, though this is more a perception thing and others will see it differently.

[marquette]

i think it's nice that even though all of us know that Sam Elliott is an AAC troll, we're all respectful to him.

Plenty of AAC trolls around since the UConn announcement.

[GoldenWarrior11]

i think it's nice that even though all of us know that Sam Elliott is an AAC troll, we're all respectful to him.

Plenty of AAC trolls around since the UConn announcement.

Teh hurt is real. AAC is pretending UConn doesn't exist anymore.