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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Gopher+RamFan » Wed May 01, 2019 11:53 am

MUBoxer wrote:Any idea when the new rankings get released?


I think Grad schools come out mid-April, usually colleges come out in August?

Big East Schools Current National Rank
Georgetown (#22)
Villanova (#49)
Marquette (#89)
DePaul (#119)
Seton Hall (#119)
Saint Johns (#152)
Creighton (???)
Potential Targets Current National Rank (only including this since I was combing through the list anyway)
UCONN (#63)
Denver (#96)
SLU (#106)
Dayton (#127)
VCU (#157)
Wichita State (#201-300 National Ranking)
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Omaha1 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:18 pm

Creighton checks in at #104 in our first year as a national university. Pretty pleased with that. Georgetown and Villanova among the tops in the country.
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby MUBoxer » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:40 pm

Bumped up to 84
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Jet915 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:08 pm

Anyone have all the Big East schools?
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Irishdawg » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:35 am

Jet915 wrote:Anyone have all the Big East schools?


US News

National Universities:
#24 - Georgetown
#46 - Villanova
#64 - Connecticut
#84 - Marquette
#104 - Creighton
#125 - DePaul
#139 - Seton Hall
#179 - St. John's

Midwest Universities
#1 - Butler
#5 - Xavier

North Universities
#1 - Providence
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Irishdawg » Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:43 am

Wall Street Journal's top 800 school rankings:

#29 - Georgetown
#105 - Connecticut
#127 - Creighton
#129 - Villanova
#165 - Marquette
#172 - Butler
#221 - DePaul
#229 - Providence
#253 - St. John's
#304 - Xavier
#332 - Seton Hall
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:50 am

Irishdawg wrote:US News

National Universities:
#24 - Georgetown
#46 - Villanova
#64 - Connecticut
#84 - Marquette
#104 - Creighton
#125 - DePaul
#139 - Seton Hall
#179 - St. John's

Midwest Universities
#1 - Butler
#5 - Xavier

North Universities
#1 - Providence


Last year's ratings:
22 - Georgetown (-2)
49 - Villanova (+3)
63- UConn (-1)
89 - Marquette (+5)
119 - DePaul (-6)
119 - Seton Hall (-20)
152 - St. John's (-27)

#2 (North) - Providence (+1)
8 (Midwest) - Xavier (+3)

What's going on at Seton Hall and St. John's that caused their rankings to tumble?
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby trephin » Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:42 pm

is the main difference between regional and national status how many doctoral programs are offered?
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Jet915 » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:54 pm

trephin wrote:is the main difference between regional and national status how many doctoral programs are offered?


Its supposedly heavily based on research.
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Re: OT: Creighton moves from Midwest to National University

Postby Hall2012 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:55 am

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:
Irishdawg wrote:US News

National Universities:
#24 - Georgetown
#46 - Villanova
#64 - Connecticut
#84 - Marquette
#104 - Creighton
#125 - DePaul
#139 - Seton Hall
#179 - St. John's

Midwest Universities
#1 - Butler
#5 - Xavier

North Universities
#1 - Providence


Last year's ratings:
22 - Georgetown (-2)
49 - Villanova (+3)
63- UConn (-1)
89 - Marquette (+5)
119 - DePaul (-6)
119 - Seton Hall (-20)
152 - St. John's (-27)

#2 (North) - Providence (+1)
8 (Midwest) - Xavier (+3)

What's going on at Seton Hall and St. John's that caused their rankings to tumble?


Most likely that there are many schools grouped very tightly in that range where any small thing can create a change. Maybe something got worse there, maybe 20 schools significantly improved. These rankings are so fluid and arbitrary that it doesn't concern me in the least. It's like recruiting rankings, where everyone from 150-300 is practically interchangeable and it all depends on who you ask.
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