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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby Novachap » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:34 am

Dave wrote:
jbarajas0490 wrote:Face it Xavier fans Dayton is the only option... UCONN won't be around forever. Public schools should be avoided, they don't fit the mold and ruin the cohesiveness of the league. UCONN will not hesitate for a second once the B1G or ACC calls, they're fans won't even remember how they struggled in the AAC and used the Catholic schools as a stepping stone.


Stop with the Catholic nonsense. Butler agrees.

The Big East is a BASKETBALL driven conference, not a sect. UCONN is the best basketball add and we are fortunate to have them back. They have a good following and they add to our hold on MSG and NYC.

Dayton? It's a nice mid major program with a nice following, but they are not Big East. St Joes is not getting in either.



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Postby _lh » Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:30 pm

With UCONN’s wise move to focus on basketball and rejoin a conference that makes geographical sense, when do other AAC teams like UC and Temple start to evaluate if focusing on big time football makes sense.

The Big 12 won’t add either of these programs and forget the ACC or Big Ten for either of them. So what are these football pretenders to do? UCONN had a safety net in the Big East. Temple and UC don’t have that luxury so do they just continue to pump bad money after bad money into unattractive football programs or do they start to look for or create their own life raft and give up on big time football like UCONN.

Would Temple and/or UC be welcome as 13 and 14 in the MAC? Does Temple just dump football and re-join the A10? It seems both are content to spend and spend on crappy football and just wait and see what happens. Is that sustainable?
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby Django » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:44 pm

_lh wrote:With UCONN’s wise move to focus on basketball and rejoin a conference that makes geographical sense, when do other AAC teams like UC and Temple start to evaluate if focusing on big time football makes sense.

The Big 12 won’t add either of these programs and forget the ACC or Big Ten for either of them. So what are these football pretenders to do? UCONN had a safety net in the Big East. Temple and UC don’t have that luxury so do they just continue to pump bad money after bad money into unattractive football programs or do they start to look for or create their own life raft and give up on big time football like UCONN.

Would Temple and/or UC be welcome as 13 and 14 in the MAC? Does Temple just dump football and re-join the A10? It seems both are content to spend and spend on crappy football and just wait and see what happens. Is that sustainable?


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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby NJRedman » Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:16 pm

kayako wrote:No chance Gonzaga commits 4 games with tbd teams. For us if we keep loading up with commitments, we'd lose the flexibility for opportunities like Duke h&h, Kentucky at MSG, etc. With 20 + BIG12 + Gavitt, there's already way too many guaranteed road games for my liking to begin with.


But it's whats best for everyone in the conference not just your one school.
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby BEXU » Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:25 pm

jbarajas0490 wrote:Face it Xavier fans Dayton is the only option... UCONN won't be around forever. Public schools should be avoided, they don't fit the mold and ruin the cohesiveness of the league. UCONN will not hesitate for a second once the B1G or ACC calls, they're fans won't even remember how they struggled in the AAC and used the Catholic schools as a stepping stone.


Soooooooooo, we keep the 30 million and go back to the 10 RR. Awwwwww
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby RedStorm » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:51 pm

_lh wrote:With UCONN’s wise move to focus on basketball and rejoin a conference that makes geographical sense, when do other AAC teams like UC and Temple start to evaluate if focusing on big time football makes sense.

The Big 12 won’t add either of these programs and forget the ACC or Big Ten for either of them. So what are these football pretenders to do? UCONN had a safety net in the Big East. Temple and UC don’t have that luxury so do they just continue to pump bad money after bad money into unattractive football programs or do they start to look for or create their own life raft and give up on big time football like UCONN.

Would Temple and/or UC be welcome as 13 and 14 in the MAC? Does Temple just dump football and re-join the A10? It seems both are content to spend and spend on crappy football and just wait and see what happens. Is that sustainable?


I think Cincy actually has a decent chance of getting a B-12 invite someday. But the B-12 is the ONLY p5 football conference that they would get into, they don't fit in any of the others. So for them its B-12 or eventual oblivion as they are much less likely to be accepted back into the BE than UConn was if they wanted that lifeline in the future.
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby _lh » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:29 pm

RedStorm wrote:
_lh wrote:With UCONN’s wise move to focus on basketball and rejoin a conference that makes geographical sense, when do other AAC teams like UC and Temple start to evaluate if focusing on big time football makes sense.

The Big 12 won’t add either of these programs and forget the ACC or Big Ten for either of them. So what are these football pretenders to do? UCONN had a safety net in the Big East. Temple and UC don’t have that luxury so do they just continue to pump bad money after bad money into unattractive football programs or do they start to look for or create their own life raft and give up on big time football like UCONN.

Would Temple and/or UC be welcome as 13 and 14 in the MAC? Does Temple just dump football and re-join the A10? It seems both are content to spend and spend on crappy football and just wait and see what happens. Is that sustainable?


I think Cincy actually has a decent chance of getting a B-12 invite someday. But the B-12 is the ONLY p5 football conference that they would get into, they don't fit in any of the others. So for them its B-12 or eventual oblivion as they are much less likely to be accepted back into the BE than UConn was if they wanted that lifeline in the future.


UC has no shot at the B12. The B12 already kicked the tires on UC, Houston, BYU and some others and made a hard pass. Now that the B12 can play a conference championship with 10 schools. They have even less reason to take on crappy football programs, with crappy stadiums with no tradition like UC.

If you are paying attention, the P5 schools want to snuff out the group of 5 programs and would rather see these group of 5 programs give up football all together than provide a lifeline for any of them by inviting them to a P5 conference.

Much like UD and VCU never getting in the BE, UC will never get in the B12. Now what could happen is the B12 could implode and the loser schools that would then be excluded from the P4 would probably merge with AAC schools but that would still leave UC on the outside of big time college football.
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby scoscox » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:44 pm

UC's best natural power conference fit is the Big Ten. Unfortunately for them, Ohio State will absolutely never allow it and Cincy isn't an appealing enough market for the other conferences to see them as desirable. I agree the Big Twelve is their best shot outside of that. Maybe West Virginia can vouch for them as long as the Big 12 doesn't end up collapsing entirely.
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby kayako » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:02 am

NJRedman wrote:
kayako wrote:No chance Gonzaga commits 4 games with tbd teams. For us if we keep loading up with commitments, we'd lose the flexibility for opportunities like Duke h&h, Kentucky at MSG, etc. With 20 + BIG12 + Gavitt, there's already way too many guaranteed road games for my liking to begin with.


But it's whats best for everyone in the conference not just your one school.


Actually, every school would need to ok it for what he suggested to work. Or Nova can say no thanks and the rest can try to make it work with Gonzaga.

But more I think about it, the idea is questionable for all sides. Why don't SJU just schedule H&H with Gonzaga if they want to play them so bad? Why would Gonzaga need to do this to prove their Big East worthiness?
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Re: Big East Conference Realignment v2018

Postby Bogg » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:33 am

Cincinnati has a reasonable shot at being included in a rebuilt Big 12 in the event they have their top brands defect in the next round of realignment, and quite honestly what amounts to a merger between the bottom half of the Big 12 and the top schools in the AAC under the Big 12 brand isn't a bad conference, even if it won't be getting major-conference football money. If the Big 12 stays together then Cincy's likely in the AAC for the foreseeable future.

kayako wrote:But more I think about it, the idea is questionable for all sides. Why don't SJU just schedule H&H with Gonzaga if they want to play them so bad? Why would Gonzaga need to do this to prove their Big East worthiness?


Why does Saint John's need the Gavitt Games or the Big 12 challenge? They recently got a home-and-home with Duke, surely they can get Michigan or Texas on the schedule by themselves if they want to play them so badly. Why does any conference make scheduling arrangements of any sort?
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