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Re: Returning Talent

Postby scoscox » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:43 pm

kayako wrote:
scoscox wrote:I really don't expect Xavier to be bubbly next year. We were bubbly this year and we basically threw away half the year to introduce a new coach, players, and system. I'd expect us to cut down that learning curve pretty significantly. I think we'll be a safe tourney team. We lose Hankins, Welage, and Castlin, which is a loss, but return our 4 leading scorers and we'll have a lot more talent coming off the bench. Should be a dangerous team. 5-7 seed.


To be specific, what I was thinking was an improvement from being a fringe bubble team. 5-7 seed range would surprise me, as it seems like half the rotation will be freshmen.


Kinda like Nova this year? 5-7 is optimistic, but I don't expect us to be nervous on selection sunday.
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby scoscox » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:46 pm

Xuperman wrote:Looks like a lot of people here will be very surprised when we lose the ENTIRE 1st team All BE and most of the 2nd. Not to mention guys like Krampelj and Heron. Most of the top talent in THIS conference aspire to play at the next level out of high school. Throw in to what degree they enjoy the student/athlete experience as a reason to leave early.

The time is now for Powell, Ponds, Howard and even Baldwin. What else do they have to prove at this level? All four should get 2nd round consideration, if not the G League is growing fast along with 2 way money.......better $$$ overseas as well.


I don't think any of those guys are even close to being projected first rounders. markus howard is still really young, so it doesn't really hurt him to come back. unless hall makes a huge run i doubt powell gets enough exposure to go 1st round. Ponds may leave to go overseas, but unless he goes off in this tournament he's not getting drafted. baldwin isn't even close
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby SJUBBALL » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:34 pm

- Nova
- GTown
- Marquette
- X
- Prov
- Seton Hall
- Creighton

will all dance next year. Maybe not Seton Hall if they lose Powell, but I also didnt expect them to make it this year so not gonna doubt them again
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby MUBoxer » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:36 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:There is guaranteed money in the NBA 2nd round, although there is a limit to how deep it goes. Both Miami's Bruce Brown and CU's Khyri Thomas got guaranteed money in the 2nd round.


Because they were signed. You are not obligated to sign a second round draft pick thus there is no guaranteed money.

https://hypebeast.com/2017/6/nba-draft- ... round-drop

Notice how quite a few players don't have salaries, they weren't signed.
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby kayako » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:47 pm

scoscox wrote:Kinda like Nova this year? 5-7 is optimistic, but I don't expect us to be nervous on selection sunday.


To be fair, only Bey was in the rotation all year. Nova's actually not that young... but will be younger next year.
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby scoscox » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:56 pm

kayako wrote:
scoscox wrote:Kinda like Nova this year? 5-7 is optimistic, but I don't expect us to be nervous on selection sunday.


To be fair, only Bey was in the rotation all year. Nova's actually not that young... but will be younger next year.


That's because you have a small rotation and swider got hurt, but Bey started and your bench was mostly freshmen besides Cremo and Roundtree, which will be similar to Xavier next year.
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby BEXU » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:43 pm

Steele will add another good to very good grad transfer. He's good at it. :D
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby Hall2012 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:25 pm

Xuperman wrote:
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Xuperman wrote:Looks like a lot of people here will be very surprised when we lose the ENTIRE 1st team All BE and most of the 2nd. Not to mention guys like Krampelj and Heron. Most of the top talent in THIS conference aspire to play at the next level out of high school. Throw in to what degree they enjoy the student/athlete experience as a reason to leave early.

The time is now for Powell, Ponds, Howard and even Baldwin. What else do they have to prove at this level? All four should get 2nd round consideration, if not the G League is growing fast along with 2 way money.......better $$$ overseas as well.


lol you wish


So, what exactly do you think is funny? Powell was arguably the best guard in the country down the stretch. His 2 BET performances were off the chart......guy is NBA GOOD right now!!


Powell's not showing up on any draft boards right now. He'd probably have to lead SHU to at least the final 4 to have a chance and since he hasn't indicated any desire to leave I don't think "maybe late 2nd round" or Europe will be enough to tempt him. I also don't think Howard's going anywhere.
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby micgoG'town » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:12 pm

Hoyas just added Galen Alexander (Juco).
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Re: Returning Talent

Postby chicagojayfan » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:25 am

jfan wrote:Creighton returns all of the starters plus other players that accounted for 92% of the scoring. We also return Jacob Epperson from injury and add redshirt transfer Denzel Mahoney. We should be better next year, but so should almost every team in the league with the possible exception of DePaul (depending on how the new players jell). Should be nasty next year!


There had been some speculation that Martin Krampelj was going to go back to Europe to start playing professionally, but he apparently said he'd be back next year after last night's game. Good news for the team as all of the other post options are much more inexperienced and Krampelj played very well in the last 3/4 of the season
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