admin wrote:I'll be "get off my lawn guy" for a minute. Neutral court games have always bothered me because they are typically high interest games that are essentially removed from the season ticket package as a money grab. Ultimately fans lose, in my opinion. Or at least the season ticket holders lose.
EMT wrote:Do you think either UConn or Cincy would have signed onto the Big East with substantial and punitive penalties if they were to leave?
kayako wrote:EMT wrote:Do you think either UConn or Cincy would have signed onto the Big East with substantial and punitive penalties if they were to leave?
Yeah. And remember both uconn and cincy ended up receiving millions of the breakup fee. Sorry, I gotta go against the mass here and wish for further deterioration of uconn's AD. Their 4 titles ain't going away. We'll be fine regionally IFF another school or two can join Nova as a national powerhouse.
gtmoBlue wrote:gosports1 wrote:at the very least UConn should be scheduling BC.PC and STJ on a regular basis. if they can get them, Cuse and Nova should be added to the mix as semi regular
Escazu, Bill, the Dudeanon, and others are siting economics as their main focus. Are you getting on that bandwagon or do you have additional information to add to the discussions?
also... general for this discussion.
Perspective is a key factor in building a point of view (pov) and from out here in the corn my perspective has no recent, pertinent info from the NE (last time I was there was the mid-70's). Uninformed opinion
would say that our teams are all doing well financially as there is no ongoing discussions here (or elsewhere to my knowledge) of difficulties. Perhaps that take is based on ignorance of specifics of our various schools
and their associated needs. I guess the Fox contract didn't cure all our ailments.
My POV is also skewed by a concentration on Creighton, on having historically being/been a "have not", and not being party to the problems associated with membership in a major conference. Even the Jays have faced
scheduling issues (repeatedly) over the decades and the scheduling difficulties scars are still there. Perhaps therein lies my main issue. Having come from a position of lack of power and control, to joining a major conference
and having a portion of said power, I have more animus and less affinity to the problems of the historically powerful major schools. There is no warm spot/soft spot in my heart for Majors who now are having difficulties.
Coming from a position where majors habitually and chronically declined to have a game with my Jays (even current conference members-no less), I smile when I hear or see major schools falling on their own swords due to negligence,
mismanagement, impropriety, and stupidity. Now I have concerns when a conference member has problems, but the other major schools? Chalk it up to their becoming victims of their own undoings, be it cheating, greed,
negligence, or mismanagement.
I see your good points on regional rivalries as a means to building dikes to support NE college basketball regionally given the competition for dollars and other obstacles to stability and growth. I don't see, even now,
where there is a concerted effort by regional majors to comprehensively address the issue. It seems that each is doing what is in their selfish best interests. From where i sit Creighton has not had the need or opportunity
to partake in such regional schemes as we have historically been on an Island of sorts as a Great Plains regional, catholic, midmajor. Our closest peers are all 500 miles away (Chicago, Denver, St Louis, Milwaukee).
Carry on.
gosports1 wrote:gtmoBlue wrote:gosports1 wrote:at the very least UConn should be scheduling BC.PC and STJ on a regular basis. if they can get them, Cuse and Nova should be added to the mix as semi regular
Escazu, Bill, the Dudeanon, and others are siting economics as their main focus. Are you getting on that bandwagon or do you have additional information to add to the discussions?
also... general for this discussion.
Perspective is a key factor in building a point of view (pov) and from out here in the corn my perspective has no recent, pertinent info from the NE (last time I was there was the mid-70's). Uninformed opinion
would say that our teams are all doing well financially as there is no ongoing discussions here (or elsewhere to my knowledge) of difficulties. Perhaps that take is based on ignorance of specifics of our various schools
and their associated needs. I guess the Fox contract didn't cure all our ailments.
My POV is also skewed by a concentration on Creighton, on having historically being/been a "have not", and not being party to the problems associated with membership in a major conference. Even the Jays have faced
scheduling issues (repeatedly) over the decades and the scheduling difficulties scars are still there. Perhaps therein lies my main issue. Having come from a position of lack of power and control, to joining a major conference
and having a portion of said power, I have more animus and less affinity to the problems of the historically powerful major schools. There is no warm spot/soft spot in my heart for Majors who now are having difficulties.
Coming from a position where majors habitually and chronically declined to have a game with my Jays (even current conference members-no less), I smile when I hear or see major schools falling on their own swords due to negligence,
mismanagement, impropriety, and stupidity. Now I have concerns when a conference member has problems, but the other major schools? Chalk it up to their becoming victims of their own undoings, be it cheating, greed,
negligence, or mismanagement.
I see your good points on regional rivalries as a means to building dikes to support NE college basketball regionally given the competition for dollars and other obstacles to stability and growth. I don't see, even now,
where there is a concerted effort by regional majors to comprehensively address the issue. It seems that each is doing what is in their selfish best interests. From where i sit Creighton has not had the need or opportunity
to partake in such regional schemes as we have historically been on an Island of sorts as a Great Plains regional, catholic, midmajor. Our closest peers are all 500 miles away (Chicago, Denver, St Louis, Milwaukee).
Carry on.
. My point is simple.
Providence & Boston College would be good regional games. Easy for both fan bases to get to. More media coverage. Uconn alumni and current students more likley to have some personal connection to PC and BC, (friends relatives, coworkers neighbors) than american conference mates
St Johns gets a game at MSG Enough said
Villanova , Philadelphia exposure and a top quality opponet
Syrauctse a fan favorite and like the others has history with UConn.
Do Creighton fans like playing Nebraska? would they be interested in reviving series with Wichita or any MVC members? maybe its different in Nebraska because they are less schools within comfortable driving distance ( there and back in same day)than in the northeast, is that the case?
Bill Marsh wrote:Rumors have surfaced here in Connecticut that St John’s and UConn are working on a deal to play a series of H&H games, potentially starting this year and with the SJU games to be played in the Garden.
Bill Marsh wrote:Rumors have surfaced here in Connecticut that St John’s and UConn are working on a deal to play a series of H&H games, potentially starting this year and with the SJU games to be played in the Garden.
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